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Offline cath151

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Re: Nancy Fish Barnum
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 14 November 17 17:08 GMT (UK) »
some details of a marriage in New York Sep 16th 1874
eg
Manchester Courier and Lancashire General Advertiser 2nd Oct 1874
"Marriage of a Barnum to a Southport Lady"
Excerpts
"P T Barnum the showman had caught a pretty English Fish"
"Miss Nancy Fish, a young lady of 26 summers, daughter of Mr John Fish of Southport, a retired manufacturer of Lancashire"
" Mr Barnum was a widower of one year and aged 64".

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Sinnock/Sinnicks...Brighton,Greenwich.
Clements,Coles,Mc Donagh,Rock

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Re: Nancy Fish Barnum
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 14 November 17 17:10 GMT (UK) »
Sarah's parents were William Walsh and Elizabeth née Shaw, so there may be a connection further back than your family story has it. 
Sarah was born in Ramsbottom, and shows up with her parents in 1881 in Walmersley cum Shuttleworth.  Elizabeth has children from an earlier marriage named Chadwick.

Elizabeth Shaw married John Chadwick in 1853 in Manchester.  sorry, I think it is probably the one in 1859 in Bury (their eldest child was born 1861)
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Re: Nancy Fish Barnum
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 14 November 17 17:36 GMT (UK) »
Thats great!! That could be my connection...I will need to check back....but the names are the same..as Martha maiden name was Shaw

thank you for that information...I will probably need to go furthur back as you suggested, but gives me a springboard..

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Re: Nancy Fish Barnum
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 14 November 17 17:53 GMT (UK) »
 Marriage 21 April 1845 at Holy Trinity, Hoghton
John Fish bachelor weaver of Wheelton s/o John Fish brewer
Martha Shaw  spinster of Wheelton d/o Edward Shaw engineer

Martha Fish in 1851 gives her birthplace as Over Darwen

I can't find Elizabeth Shaw's marriage to John Chadwick, other than on the civil registration index. However she appears with her parents Edward and Jane in 1851, both of whom were born in Over Darwen. Edward is a machine engineer.
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Re: Nancy Fish Barnum
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 14 November 17 18:36 GMT (UK) »
I think this is the 1871 showing Martha,Nancy and Jane together:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VBNY-2RQ

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Re: Nancy Fish Barnum
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 14 November 17 19:18 GMT (UK) »
 ;D

thats showing my connection....thank you....

Thank you all for your help...

Thats great  :D

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Re: Nancy Fish Barnum
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 14 November 17 19:38 GMT (UK) »
There are photographs of them on an online tree.

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Stevens /Godfrey /Rudgley /Claridge/ Gipson /George /Bliss
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Re: Nancy Fish Barnum
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 14 November 17 20:08 GMT (UK) »
I have pics of nancy...but where would i find the photos on the online tree..please

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Re: Nancy Fish Barnum
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 14 November 17 22:09 GMT (UK) »
Somebody has a tree on ancestry.

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Stevens /Godfrey /Rudgley /Claridge/ Gipson /George /Bliss
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