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James William Hope Hay Wales
« on: Wednesday 15 November 17 01:11 GMT (UK) »
Hello all.  New here.  I am in Perth Western Australia and researching a James William Hope born in Hay Wales 1851 who became a well known doctor in Fremantle WA.  Died 1918 in Bath and buried in Hay.

I have basic information such as census data.  I am looking for a headstone image from Hay cemetery.  Any family stories or local information is useful. 

Getting access to local databases and library information is tricky from Australia.

He also worked with red cross in France in world war one but have had little information about him from them.

Kilverts diary apparently mentions the Hope family in it.  Has anyone read that?

So would love to hear from any descendants or history buffs who can fill in some gaps.

Mike

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Re: James William Hope Hay Wales
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 15 November 17 13:20 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for the reply.  I have the obvious web searches fine already.  That's my guy though.  These pages are pretty broad. Mike

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Re: James William Hope Hay Wales
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 15 November 17 15:46 GMT (UK) »
A very warm welcome to Rootschat. A lengthy obit appeared in the "Brecon County Times etc. etc, 5 Dec 1918" - see col 1.
http://newspapers.library.wales/view/3859387/3859395/81/
S. Wales, Somerset, Devon - Oxenham

Aberavon - Hopkin/s, Jenkins, Thomas
St. Brides/Wick - Jenkins
Llanblethian -  Price
Abergwynfi -  Han(d)ford
Pontardawe -  Lewis.

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Re: James William Hope Hay Wales
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 16 November 17 11:11 GMT (UK) »
Thank you for the local death notice.  That fills in a few more gaps for me.  I have the Aussie version but it is not half as detailed probably because he was overseas.  Strange his wife who was in the UK at the time I believe was not a mourner.  Will look into that.  Brilliant stuff.

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Re: James William Hope Hay Wales
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 16 November 17 11:28 GMT (UK) »
Maybe something to do with Welsh custom, up until late as 1950s/60s or later it was the custom with many that men only attended the graveside.

Don't know if it applies here. You can google for info on Welsh women attending funerals.

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Gibbons, Mordecai/Mort, Squire, Thomas, David/Davies, Joseph, Bowen, Lewis, Rees, Williams, Jones, Llewellyn, Morgan - Glam
Gibbons, Timbrell, Beale, Ludlow - Glos/Wilts
Davies, Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd, Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Shoemac, Squire, Keirle, Small - Somerset
Berry, Baggot, Lee, Clayton - Lancs
Baggot, Hurley, Keaveny, Shiel, Flynn - Ireland
Bray - Cornwall

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Re: James William Hope Hay Wales
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 16 November 17 22:39 GMT (UK) »
Ah brilliant that would explain the lack of women folk.  This site is such a great resource.  Everyone is so helpful.

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Re: James William Hope Hay Wales
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 16 November 17 22:49 GMT (UK) »
Glad to say, things have now changed with time. All loved ones attend when able. But in generations past was not 'fitting' for most women, they abided to custom in general.

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Gibbons, Mordecai/Mort, Squire, Thomas, David/Davies, Joseph, Bowen, Lewis, Rees, Williams, Jones, Llewellyn, Morgan - Glam
Gibbons, Timbrell, Beale, Ludlow - Glos/Wilts
Davies, Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd, Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Shoemac, Squire, Keirle, Small - Somerset
Berry, Baggot, Lee, Clayton - Lancs
Baggot, Hurley, Keaveny, Shiel, Flynn - Ireland
Bray - Cornwall

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Re: James William Hope Hay Wales
« Reply #8 on: Friday 17 November 17 07:00 GMT (UK) »
Thank you once again.  It's all coming together.  I am of to chase the British red cross for a specific location of his war service in France.  Their online portal is a bit general.  Anyone have any luck contacting them direct to chase details?