Frederick George Warriner b 1885 Acomb, Yorkshire ? emigrated

[*Sandra*]

FIND A GRAVE

David F Warriner - 11 August 1921 - 25 September 2002 -

Fort Logan National Cemetery  Denver, Denver County, Colorado.

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/36121748

Sandra

[Cockneyrebel]

It seems to me Sandra, that Frederick had 2 families, the dob recorded on the US draft cards show the same day and month but different years, presumably hiding the truth in the 2nd one? When his son Cyril married in 1925 his mother recorded that Frederick was missing and hadn't seen his son for 4 years. Seems as though Frederick had started a new family by then. Wonder if he married Bessie and where was he in 1930?
Cr

[*Sandra*]

The occupations were similar on the 1920 census were'nt they.

1920 4th Street Philadelphia Ward 33, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.

Frederich G Warriner   34 Born Eng. Manager Automobile Shop. Imm 1910. Married Alien.
Mary Warriner   36 Born Eng. Imm 1910. Alien.
Cyril T Warriner   13 Born Eng. (deceased 1 June 1961 - divorced)
Frederich G Warriner   5 Born PA.
Letitia Warriner   1 Born PA.

https://beta.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MXSF-3FR

Son - Frederick G Warriner was aged 5 years on that census. US WW11 Draft gave 26 July 1914 -
 U.S., Social Security Applications and Claims Index, 1936-2007 - Frederick G Warner -
Frederick G Warriner - 26 July 1912 - passed away 1 March 1999 - parents - Frederick G Warner
Mother Mary Machen.  Married Evelyn Kelly in 1947 Philadelphia. Marriage License Number:   845249.

Ninth Street Philadelphia Ward 43, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 1920

Frederick Warriner   34 Born Colorado. Machinist. Garage.
Elizabeth Warriner   23 Born PA.
Edwin Warriner   1 Born PA
Peter L Curtis   22 Born PA. Brother-in-law.

Edwin was Edwin Joseph Warriner - born 8 December 1919 -

Notice both families have youngsters aged 1 year on those 1920 census. Letitia and Edwin - strange - because if we believe that this is the same guy with 2 families - the 1930 census says first married at aged 30 years - so about 1915 

Bradburn Ave Westminster, Adams, Colorado 1930 census.

Fredrick S Warrner 44  First marrried at 30 years. Machinist. Automobile.
Bessie Warrner   33 First married aged 20 years.
Edwin David Warrner   10 Born PA
David Warrner   8 Born PA
Bettie Warrner   4 Born PA

Sandra

[Cockneyrebel]

Hello Sandra, it seems very odd that his jobs are so similar and that he appeared on 2 1920 censuses-was that possible in those days-could he have been recorded there but absent
 in reality? The fact that Mary said he was missing for 4 years prior to 1925 might have been the tip of the iceberg, perhaps he was missing before 1920 from her family home?
It'd be interesting to find the marriage cert for him and Bessie?
Cr

[*Sandra*]

When his son Cyril married in 1925 his mother recorded that Frederick was missing and hadn't seen his son for 4 years.
Cr

Haven' t seen the marriage certificate for Cyril - is that where you got this info from 

Sandra

[Cockneyrebel]

Hi  Sandra, I found it when I was researching further on ancestry, something to do with Cyril being only 18, I'll attach it by pm.
Cr

[*Sandra*]

So this is a consent form off someone's ancestry tree ?

Sandra

[Cockneyrebel]

I can't remember where I acquired  it but there are no trees that show him that I can find they've got the other family with Bessie as mother. There is a cert on FindMyPast that says they were married with license of the Orphans Court-wonder if that's for Cyril? It's numbered 517556. There is also on FindMyPast a hand written cert, father's address unknown!
Cr

[Cockneyrebel]

It's on FindMyPast Sandra-Mary's consent form for Cyril's marriage stating his father being missing for 4 years.
Cr