1841 and 1851 census returns help needed please

[JennMorgon]

I am trying to find John Skinner born around 1774 who was living in Ottery St Mary, Devon when he died in 1859. I think he may have been born in Whimple, Devon.   I was able to locate his burial record using my Find My Past subscription.  However,  couldn't find him using FindMyPast for 1841 or 1851.  If anyone can locate him on census returns - please let me know
Many thanks
Jenny

[goldie61]

Do you have his occupation? Or a wife's name?
These would help identify him amongst several others. There are about a dozen John Skinners in 1841 on Freecen, and the 1841 doesn't usually give an actual place of birth - just 'Devon'.

[JennMorgon]

His son, William Skinner,  was a blacksmith but I don't know what his occupation was.  His wife was Sarah as far as I know.  Hazy details - sorry.  The main information I have is from baptismal and marriage records.  They indicate a John and Sarah Skinner who lived at Whimple, - part of the Ottery Parish.  I will have a look at Freecen -  I didn't know it existed !
Jenn

[JennMorgon]

Just checked freecen - no sign of him there for 1851 or 1841.  Really annoying as I know he was living in Yonder Street, Ottery St Mary when he died in 1859

[amondg]

1851 transcribed as John Kinner in Ottery St Mary

John Kinner 77 Retired Blacksmith born Whimple Devon
Ann 69 wife born Lippert Devon
Samuel Ch---? 67 unmarried, visitor  pauper

Living on Yonder Street. 

[solidrock]

There is a William Skinner b 1802 Ottery St Mary.  father John.  mother Sarah.

[amondg]

1839 Robson's Directory of Ottery St Mary Devon

John Skinner, Blacksmith, Tipper Street.

Could he have been missed in 1841?

ADDED

1830 Pigot's Directory of Ottery St Mary.

John Skinner, Blacksmith, Tipple Street.

[JennMorgon]

Many, many  thanks to everyone.  I will have a good look at the answers you have given and see what fits.
Jenn

[[Ray]]

Hi

They are in Tipple St, St M Ottery in 1841

He 65, Sarah 45, William 13 & Edmund Stewart 13 (amended).

HO 107 / 237 / 1 / 11 / page 16 / (St M Ottery District 11)

Top of next page, who may be living with them is an 85yo Mary F/P . . . . (surname unreadable to me )

Ray