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Re: Tryphena Venn - woman of mystery
« Reply #18 on: Saturday 18 November 17 19:37 GMT (UK) »

I think if she was still having to work at 70 she may have  fibbed about her actual age!

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Re: Tryphena Venn - woman of mystery
« Reply #19 on: Saturday 18 November 17 19:40 GMT (UK) »
 ;D But from 1851 for what ever reason she " fibbed" about her true age?!
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Re: Tryphena Venn - woman of mystery
« Reply #20 on: Saturday 18 November 17 19:46 GMT (UK) »
Well she seems to have fibbed about having a husband!

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Re: Tryphena Venn - woman of mystery
« Reply #21 on: Saturday 18 November 17 20:34 GMT (UK) »
Hi again, ok would I be correct Emma Coels died 1899 West Ham 4a 181 aged 47, if so an Emma to trace from c 1852 to marriage?!
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Re: Tryphena Venn - woman of mystery
« Reply #22 on: Saturday 18 November 17 22:05 GMT (UK) »
All I know of Emma for certain is that she married at St George's Hanover Square in1874 age 22. Marriage cert states father was William Venn, engineer. In 1881 census she is living in Westminster with husband  Matthew Coels and children, then in 1891 with family plus mother in Walthamstow. She died age 47 in Walthamstow.

As I never found the three of them as a family unit I started working backwards and traced Tryphena as a live- in cook, next step to trace Emma possibly with relatives, but as yet nothing obvious.

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Re: Tryphena Venn - woman of mystery
« Reply #23 on: Saturday 18 November 17 22:11 GMT (UK) »
What about the Emma who is a niece in 1871 - do you think that is a different Emma? 

That Emma was a nurse and I see Matthew was a surgeon. 
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Re: Tryphena Venn - woman of mystery
« Reply #24 on: Saturday 18 November 17 22:33 GMT (UK) »
Sorry for not replying to you Milliepede.  This could be my Emma, just can't see a  connection as yet.
It turns out that Matthew Coels was a surgeon's assistant rather than a surgeon, prior to that he had been a valet. He was born in Germany and became a naturalised citizen in 1875.
They have been an interesting lot to research as I've learnt about naturalization, what happened to German immigrants re WW1etc

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Re: Tryphena Venn - woman of mystery
« Reply #25 on: Saturday 18 November 17 22:50 GMT (UK) »
The 1871 household is headed by Fanny Spark she married as Fanny Windeat to George Spark Dec qtr 1862 Exeter 5b 151, by 1881 she is married to the Richard Pitts in 1871 household
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