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Re: Tryphena Venn - woman of mystery
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 18 November 17 16:22 GMT (UK) »
Wonder if T Venn in 1881 should be J Venn?

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Re: Tryphena Venn - woman of mystery
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 18 November 17 16:28 GMT (UK) »
Is Emma down as niece in 1871?  Age 22 or is that too old for her :-\

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Re: Tryphena Venn - woman of mystery
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 18 November 17 16:34 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for all the leads, that certainly looks like her in the Cullompton baptismal register, strange that it didn't come up on IGI.

In the 1861 census she appears on Ancestry, but not on IGI, as Trefina Venn working as a cook in the household of a Major-General in Marylebone. I don't currently have an ancestry sub. and did not print a copy of the image when I found it a few years ago.

In 1891 she was living with her daughter and son in law Matthew Coels in Walthamstow.
Emma does not seem to have lived with her, I assumed she was probably living with relatives while her mother worked as a live in cook.

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Re: Tryphena Venn - woman of mystery
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 18 November 17 16:39 GMT (UK) »
Are these related then:

1861:

William Venn   46 Farmer of 30 acres Born. Cullompton
Augusta Venn   45
Richard Venn   16
Thomas Venn   13
Tryphena Venn   11
Ann Venn   8
William Venn   4

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Re: Tryphena Venn - woman of mystery
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 18 November 17 17:04 GMT (UK) »
Hi as IGI is associated with FindMyPast the 1861 census shows her as TUFINA VINN b 1819
Census ref RG09/3/120/50
Note, found by using the census reference
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Re: Tryphena Venn - woman of mystery
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 18 November 17 17:44 GMT (UK) »
Hi as IGI is associated with FindMyPast the 1861 census shows her as TUFINA VINN b 1819
Census ref RG09/3/120/50
Note, found by using the census reference
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Where have you Tryphena in 1871 census, the one in 1861 is working as a Cook for a Henry Floyd, in 1871 a Tryphena Venn b 1817 Cullompton is a House Keeper for a Charles G Floyd b Italy in Downham, Norfolk?
Census ref RG10/1866/24/5
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Re: Tryphena Venn - woman of mystery
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 18 November 17 18:55 GMT (UK) »
Hi again in your opening post you mention Tryphena was born in Bradninch or Cullompton, Their is a Tryphina Venn 35 Single occ Cook b BRADNICH working for a William G Clarke in 1851 census Sidmouth, Devon.
Census ref HO107/1864/347/7
The whereabouts of the Tryphena b c 1811 you have 1851 to 1881 would help?
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Re: Tryphena Venn - woman of mystery
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 18 November 17 19:28 GMT (UK) »
Hi,
I was just about to list the census details I have when you posted again, thanks for all the info.
I have:
1851 Sidmouth, cook to Clarke
1861 Westbourne Terrace Paddington cook to Henry Floyd
1871 Holme Norfolk house keeper to Rector Christopher Floyd, who I have just discovered was the son of Henry.
1881 Epping Essex,listed as Uryphena Venn suddenly 10 years younger , cook to Houblon
1891 Walthamstow with daughter and son in law and family, Coels.
I think this must be the same woman. Now just have to prove she is my ancestor.

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Re: Tryphena Venn - woman of mystery
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 18 November 17 19:31 GMT (UK) »
OK So now we have a Tryphena b c 1816/1819?
The 1881 shows her as b c 1822 a Widow b Brunish? Occ Cook in Epping.
Census ref RG11/1737/41/30
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