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Help for the marriage of William Sutherland and Margaret Watherston
« on: Saturday 18 November 17 17:59 GMT (UK) »
He was born in Perth (around 1833) she was in Edimburg (around 1836).
Familysearch gives 5 children , the eldest born in 1854, Hutchesontown, Glasgow.
They emigrated in France and had other children, he was a blacksmith,she died in CROIX (departement du Nord) in 1883, the record says father Jean (John) and mother Mary Blair (both dead before 1883).
He came back and died in Huddersfield (yorkshire) in 1907.
Help would be very much appreciated.

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Re: Help for the marriage of William Sutherland and Margaret Watherston
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 18 November 17 18:29 GMT (UK) »
Can't easily see the marriage for you  :-\ Possible that records have not survived always. Also, many events pre 1855 went unrecorded.

Maybe the marriage took place in the Perth area? Is this Margaret's family in 1851?

John Watherston 48 tailor b. England
Mary Watherston 45 b. Perth
John Watherston 16 dyer b Edinburgh https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XTRX-678
Margaret Watherston 15 servant b Edinburgh
Betsey Watherston 7 b. Perth
James Watherston 5 b. Perth
Euphema Watherston 2 b. Perth

Address: 151 High Street, Perth

There was also a son Adam who may have died early https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VQHR

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Re: Help for the marriage of William Sutherland and Margaret Watherston
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 18 November 17 18:38 GMT (UK) »
Possible death for Mary Blair/Wheterston in 1883 in Perth - ref 387/ 436.

This was the year that daughter Margaret married from what you mentioned. Death looks to have taken place earlier that year.

Two possible deaths in Perth for father John (he may have died elsewhere of course):

John Waterston, aged 67. Death in 1880 ref 387/ 175
John Watherston, aged 72. Death in 1870 ref 387/ 198

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Re: Help for the marriage of William Sutherland and Margaret Watherston
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 18 November 17 18:59 GMT (UK) »
Thank you very much Monica, the Watherston family that you found may be Margaretís. I have no other data about her.

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Re: Help for the marriage of William Sutherland and Margaret Watherston
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 18 November 17 19:06 GMT (UK) »
Looks like Margaret Sutherland was visiting(on visit from France) her widowed mother on the 1881 Census(LDS Census free on Scotlandspeople).



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1881 Census 80 Kirk Close Perth
Mary Waterson 75 head w of tailor born Perth Scotland
James Waterson 32 son b. Perth Scotland
Euphena Waterson 30 daur. b. Perth Scotland
Margret Sutherland 45 daur. on visit from France b. Edinburgh Scotland
Edward Sutherland 3 grand son on visit from france b. France
John Gellitly 13 grand son b. Auchterarder Perth Scotland   
David Gellitly 11 grand son b. Perth Scotland
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Re: Help for the marriage of William Sutherland and Margaret Watherston
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 18 November 17 19:26 GMT (UK) »
Yes , this matches to  her story, thank you so much ev.

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Re: Help for the marriage of William Sutherland and Margaret Watherston
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 18 November 17 19:57 GMT (UK) »
I did spot this on SP(Banns and Marriages) -

William Sutherland / Margaret Welshshelstone(  ??? ) 5th June 1853 Gorbals Lanark.

There probably wont be much more information  :-\


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Re: Help for the marriage of William Sutherland and Margaret Watherston
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 18 November 17 20:41 GMT (UK) »
That looks likely, Ev  :)
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Re: Help for the marriage of William Sutherland and Margaret Watherston
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 18 November 17 20:59 GMT (UK) »
For William Sutherland, he shows as a blacksmith by trade on the 1861 census in Govan.

I wonder whether this is him with a brother in 1851:

James Sutherland 28 blacksmith b. Perth
Ann Sutherland 23 b. Perth
William Sutherland 18 blacksmith b. Perth (he is showing as 'son' so you would need to check original image from SP. SP do show this entry with William aged 18, from the main index only)
Betsey Sutherland 1 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X19F-MLZ

Address: 232 High St, Perth

There is this entry from the earlier 1841 census that could fit for William and also a James:

Mary Sutherland 40, Independent
James Sutherland 15, Apprentice Black Smith        
William Sutherland 8

Address: High Street, Perth

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