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Missing in census 1891?
« on: Sunday 19 November 17 18:39 GMT (UK) »
Hi.

1901 census shows Frederick Wells, born Nuthurst, 35 with wife Caroline 40 and children Robert 14, George 11, William E 10, Winifred 8, Edith 6 and Albert E 2.

Frederick married Caroline Laker in 1894.

Robert and George have mmn as Grant and in the 1911 census, Robert, 24, is there with Percy....26 (no George)

The problem is that I can find no-one in 1891.....

Would also like to find out who the father "Grant" was (cannot find a marriage for Grant & Laker).


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Re: Missing in census 1891?
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 19 November 17 18:51 GMT (UK) »
Caroline Laker, 31, in West Grinstead in 1891, with sons Percy, Robert, George, William
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:4D6S-T6Z

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Re: Missing in census 1891?
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 19 November 17 18:55 GMT (UK) »
Terrific one. Can't be 4 illegitimate children surely...

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Re: Missing in census 1891?
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 19 November 17 18:56 GMT (UK) »
Percy's birth reg?
March 1885 Reigate 2a 186
Laker, Percy Grant Dallas
mother's maiden surname -

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Re: Missing in census 1891?
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 19 November 17 19:10 GMT (UK) »
Terrific one. Can't be 4 illegitimate children surely...

Hi
Well, it looks like it!

Marriage was at Nuthurst, 18th January 1894
Frederick George Wells, 28, Bachelor, Labourer, father George Wells, Labourer
+
Caroline Laker, 32, Spinster, father Peter Laker, Labourer
residence for both Nuthurst
both signed
witnesses Emma Edith Hubbard, Edmund Ernest Hubbard

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https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-DT46-G6?i=645&cat=452239

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Re: Missing in census 1891?
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 19 November 17 19:28 GMT (UK) »
Is this Percy in 1901?

RG13; Piece: 759; Folio: 37; Page: 13
Hadlow Kent
   

James Sparshott   66      Ag Lab             Washington Sussex
Harriet Sparshott   65                            Wormanhurst, Sussex
Percy Laker   14    grandson                   Reigate
Frank Snashel   32    boarder                      Hadlow, Kent
Elizabeth Richardson   19 grand daughter      Harrow Road, London
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Re: Missing in census 1891?
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 19 November 17 19:42 GMT (UK) »
Could be, although Caroline's father was Peter and I haven't come across Sparshott (he was Percy Grant in 1911).

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Re: Missing in census 1891?
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 19 November 17 19:56 GMT (UK) »
Hi in 1861 census, a Caroline LAKES b 1860/1 is with parents Peter and Mary in West Grinstead
Census ref RG09/607/37/1
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EDIT The birth registration of Caroline LAKER is Dec qtr 1860 Horsham mmn PATCHING

A Peter Laker married a Mary Ann Patching Dec qtr 1843 Horsham v7 page 611
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Re: Missing in census 1891?
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 19 November 17 20:56 GMT (UK) »
Mmm, getting a bit concerned, if the Percy Laker 14 b Reigate in 1901 is the same as the 1891 Percy, then the James Sparshott married a Harriet HEDGER in 1859 Thakenham, so wondering how Percy a Grandson?
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