Author Topic: Garston, St. Michael's graveyard - Ireland  (Read 1009 times)

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Re: Garston, St. Michael's graveyard - Ireland
« Reply #9 on: Friday 24 November 17 09:22 GMT (UK) »
I wonder whether Garstonite or some other kind person can check a gravestone at St. Michael's, Garston for me. The image I've found on Ancestry is not clear. The inscription apparently reads:

"Headstone - Charles & Mary Ireland

"The burial place of Charles and May Ireland of Speke (actually Hale). Martha aged 10 months 1808 Edward aged 10 months 1814 William aged 10 months 1824 Also Mary died 7th June 1846 Aged 16 years and 10 months. (verse) Also Charles Ireland Also Mary Ireland".

Could some kind person who visits the graveyard take another pic, please?

Many thanks and best wishes

John

this looks like the marriage - the Wyke family also still in Garston - had a telly shop until recently

Banns: 28 Apr 1806 St Mary, Hale, Lancashire, England
 Charles Ireland - (X), Bachelor, Hale in the parish Childwall
 Mary Wyke - (X), Spinster, Speke in the parish Childwall
     Witness: Thomas Berry; Robert Southern
     Married by Banns by: Saml. Norman Minister
     Register: Marriages 1799 - 1812, Page 16, Entry 40
     Source: LDS Film 2045907

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Re: Garston, St. Michael's graveyard - Ireland
« Reply #10 on: Friday 24 November 17 09:25 GMT (UK) »
You may find this interesting
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/merseyside-tales-history-hale-hall-3351510

Sir Gilbert Ireland had Hale Hall built in 1674

Charles and Mary had 7 children - he was a Fisherman and they lived in Oglet until at least 1832

family there in 1851 also the Wyke family
http://spekearchiveonline.co.uk/oglet_lane.htm
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Re: Garston, St. Michael's graveyard - Ireland
« Reply #11 on: Friday 24 November 17 09:40 GMT (UK) »
Many, many thanks, Garstonite. That's great - and thanks for your perseverance in boggy conditions. You're a star.

As you say, if you get the chance if it dries up ...

Best wishes

John

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Re: Garston, St. Michael's graveyard - Ireland
« Reply #12 on: Friday 24 November 17 09:49 GMT (UK) »
this is nice - Mary is still alive in 1861 living in a cottage in Oglet Lane with her son Adam and his wife and children - WITH A SERVANT ...so they had a bit of money ...not bad for a Fishermans wife
1861 census - Cottage ,Oglet Lane
Mary Ireland                Head    74                                    Speke, Lancs
 Adam Ireland               Head    29        Labourer          Speke, Lancs
 Mary Ireland                Wife     29                                     Roby, Lancs
 Edward Ireland            Son      4          Scholar             Speke, Lancs
 Mary Ellen Ireland     Dau      2          Scholar              Speke, Lancs
 James Ireland               Son      3m                                   Speke, Lancs
 Alice Leadbetter          Serv     15                                    Speke, Lancs

Adams baptism
Baptism: 18 Mar 1832 St Mary, Hale, Lancashire, England
 Adam Ireland - Son of Charles Ireland & Mary
     Abode: Speke
     Occupation: Fisherman
     Baptised by: Wm. Stewart
     Register: Baptisms 1813 - 1841, Page 129, Entry 1025
     Source: LDS Film 2045906

Oglet was a tiny village between Hale and Speke - slowly demolished and taken up by Speke Airport but Oglet Shore is still popular with local people
 
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Re: Garston, St. Michael's graveyard - Ireland
« Reply #13 on: Friday 24 November 17 10:08 GMT (UK) »
Again, many thanks, Garstonite. I shall pass this and your previous findings on to my very distant Ireland cousin in Canada.

Wondered where Oglet was in Hale/Speke. Thanks for the clarifications.

Best wishes

John
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Re: Garston, St. Michael's graveyard - Ireland
« Reply #14 on: Friday 24 November 17 10:15 GMT (UK) »
John - tell your Canadian contact to search through this site for Ireland family
http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Search/indexp.html
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Re: Garston, St. Michael's graveyard - Ireland
« Reply #15 on: Friday 24 November 17 12:04 GMT (UK) »
I used to work in Air Traffic Control at Liverpool Airport and used to drive along Oglet Lane on a daily basis. All the original cottages are long gone now although there are a couple near the Tower as well as Oglet Farm. There used to be a Salt Works on Oglet Shore.

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Re: Garston, St. Michael's graveyard - Ireland
« Reply #16 on: Friday 24 November 17 12:19 GMT (UK) »
Dear Emeltom

Thanks for this little nugget, about the salt works. Very useful as one of our Ireland antecedents, John Ireland b. 1822 gives his address in the 1881C as the Saltworks.

Keep them coming. There is no substitute for local knowledge. In the early 60's, I used to pass what became John Lennon airport on the way home from my Dad's shop in Chesterton Street.

Best

John
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Re: Garston, St. Michael's graveyard - Ireland
« Reply #17 on: Friday 24 November 17 12:22 GMT (UK) »
John - tell your Canadian contact to search through this site for Ireland family
http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Search/indexp.html

Will do.

Thanks again

Best

John
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