Frederick Culliford Marriage?

[snowyw]

Yes you are right Jennifer.  Thank you.
I just want to find out more information about the Frederick Culliford and Fanny marriage in Charlton 1840.

[grandarog]

I am afraid I still disagree that The Frederick William Culliford . I mentioned is your Chap .

1.. The chap I mentioned  was born in Bridgewater not Walcot.
2.. Your Frederick baptised in Walcot was son of George and Susanna.
3.. His mother was Jane Hoskins living at Stonehouse ,Devonport.
4.  If he had married Fanny in 1840 when he allocated her money.he changed the allocation to his   
     Mother Jane Hoskins in 1850
4..He is then shown as marrying Mary Ann Nile at East Stonehouse Devonport in 1853. 5c 494

 5 ..The Fred that is receiving a pension granted in 1856 could be either of them !!!

Source :-National Archives.

[snowyw]

That is brilliant.
The confusion lies that my Frederick Culliford also was a seaman.  I believe the Frederick found at The Black Horse in Worcester in 1851 is my Frederick as he was born in 1814 - the correct year. On his son Walter's marriage entry, Frederick was described as the recruiting sergeant for the Royal Marines.
He was also a Greenwich pensioner.

So do you think it was my Frederick that married Fanny, because if he did - it throws the cat among the pigeons.  And - what happened to her? Where is the evidence of the marriage?

[grandarog]

If I remember without looking back Fred at the Black horse was a Royal Marine Corporal. Presuming his son was Married a few years later that would have given him time to have been promoted to Sergeant

That could confirm he is yours  I  suppose. However I cant see any way to be really sure.

The Fanny "marriage" could well have been a fiddle to claim extra pay, she may not have existed in real life and was an alias name of his mother.
Good Luck sorting it out. At least your steel wall has a few dents and bits knocked out now.

[snowyw]

If I remember without looking back Fred at the Black horse was a Royal Marine Corporal. Presuming his son was Married a few years later that would have given him time to have been promoted to Sergeant

I think Frederick must have ended his days as a recruiting sergeant, as the marrage I referred to actally happened in 1888, after Frederick's death in 1875.

The Fanny "marriage" could well have been a fiddle to claim extra pay, she may not have existed in real life and was an alias name of his mother.

That is an interesting thought.  I suppose I shouldn't be so naive and take things with a large pinch of salt more often.  I think I am going to ignore Fanny as I can find no more evidence to support her being married to my Frederick.

[snowyw]

Just found this:

   
Frederick William Culliford
England, Devon, Parish Registers
Name   Frederick William Culliford
Event Type   Marriage
Event Date   1853
Event Place   Devon
Age   26
Birth Year (Estimated)   1827
Spouse's Name   Mary Ann Nile

Seems that Frederick William was born in 1827, so the Frederick in The Black Horse must be mine.....and still might be the one who "married" Fanny in 1840, as Frederick William would only have been 11 years old. 

Heck!!!

[grandarog]

Thats the Marriage in the bottom pic on my previous post.