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Thomas BURNS/ Battle of Loos
« on: Wednesday 22 November 17 16:36 GMT (UK) »
Can anyone please help with any military information on Thomas BURNS.

All I know he was a Private with the Royal Scots Fusiliers and died at the Battle of Loos in 1916 aged 32.  Born 1883 and married 1903 in Newcastle.

Sorry I don't have his number.

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Re: Thomas BURNS/ Battle of Loos
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 22 November 17 17:29 GMT (UK) »
Howard , Viney , Kingsman, Pain/e, Rainer/ Rayner, Barham, George, Wakeling (Catherine), Vicary (Frederick)   all LDN area/suburbs  Ottley/ MDX,
Henman/ KNT   Gandy/LDN before 1830  Burgess/LDN
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Re: Thomas BURNS/ Battle of Loos
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 22 November 17 17:48 GMT (UK) »
Was his name wife's name Martha which is the wife of the man nanny jan cites.  The Battle of Loos took place in 1915.

More if you can confirm that although I find no other Thomas Burns of that regiment.

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Re: Thomas BURNS/ Battle of Loos
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 22 November 17 19:16 GMT (UK) »
Burns 17675 was born in Troqueer, Kircudbrightshire,  according to the Scottish National War Memorial.

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Re: Thomas BURNS/ Battle of Loos
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 22 November 17 19:45 GMT (UK) »
And lived in Maxwelltown Dumfrieshire.  Was in the 6th Battalion, went to France in August 1915.  The war diary has a very detailed account by the Commanding Officer of the action by 6th R Scots Fus on 24-26 Sep 1917 in which this Thomas Burns was among the missing and whose death was presumed to have occurred on 25 Sep 1915.  He is among the 414 men of the Royal Scots Fusiliers who have no known grave and who are commemorated on the Loos Memorial cited by nanny jan earlier.

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Re: Thomas BURNS/ Battle of Loos
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 22 November 17 20:53 GMT (UK) »
Was his name wife's name Martha which is the wife of the man nanny jan cites.  The Battle of Loos took place in 1915.

More if you can confirm that although I find no other Thomas Burns of that regiment.

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I am not sure on this, sorry.

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Re: Thomas BURNS/ Battle of Loos
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 22 November 17 20:57 GMT (UK) »
Where did you find the information about his regiment and date of death?
Howard , Viney , Kingsman, Pain/e, Rainer/ Rayner, Barham, George, Wakeling (Catherine), Vicary (Frederick)   all LDN area/suburbs  Ottley/ MDX,
Henman/ KNT   Gandy/LDN before 1830  Burgess/LDN
Barham/SFK   Rainer/CAN (Toronto) Gillians/CAN  Sturgeon/CAN (Vancouver)
Bailey/LDN Page/KNT   Paling/WA (var)



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Re: Thomas BURNS/ Battle of Loos
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 22 November 17 20:59 GMT (UK) »
To give geographical location for where he was when he fell go to this map:
http://maps.nls.uk/view/101465011
go to G.5.b. (fosse no.8 ) & that is the trench the 6/RSF where in on the day.
Below is a local map on which I've indicated the same.
These trenches in red were German.
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
Kings of Wessex & Scotland
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Re: Thomas BURNS/ Battle of Loos
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 22 November 17 21:00 GMT (UK) »
Burns 17675 was born in Troqueer, Kircudbrightshire,  according to the Scottish National War Memorial.

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The information I have been given says he was married in Newcastle 1903 - don't have information where he was born. That said - this may be him.

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