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Old Parish Registers Death - Linlithgow 1717
« on: Wednesday 22 November 17 20:29 GMT (UK) »
Any advice would be appreciated but how should I write this sentence today?

Thirdly the Elimoziner charges kinfolk with the
money received for Mortcloath the forfaid your space. 


Pounds shillings and pence? It seems to be a lot of money back in those days.

Source: Old Parish Registers Death - Linlithgow 1717. ScotlandsPeople
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Angus County Scotland, Ford, Meikle, Pullar
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England: Hodson(Bristol) and Flooks
NZ - Ford, Hodson, Sutton
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Re: Old Parish Registers Death - Linlithgow 1717
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 22 November 17 20:48 GMT (UK) »
Possibly Pounds Scots? one twelfth of English Pounds & still in use for most of the 18th century.

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Re: Old Parish Registers Death - Linlithgow 1717
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 22 November 17 21:05 GMT (UK) »
I don't know if it will make any difference, but I think it is:

Thirdly the Elimoziner charges himself with the
money received for Mortcloath the forsaid (your space).

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McDonald MacDonald M'Donald McGregor MacGregor M'Gregor Twilley Wells Fentiman Carrington Rowe Needham Mitchell Mackie Collingwood Fuller Maides Shilton Hagon Budd

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Re: Old Parish Registers Death - Linlithgow 1717
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 22 November 17 21:06 GMT (UK) »
I’d agree with Skoosh about the Scots pound being different to the English pound.
Also, it was a charge for the ‘best Velvit Mortcloath’!

By the way, the sentence reads
Thirdly the Elimoziner charges himself with
the money received for Mortcloaths the forsaid
years space.


Added: Just beat me to it Karen!
Lane, Burgess: Cheshire. Finney, Rogers, Gilman:Derbys
Cochran, Nicol, Paton, Bruce:Scotland. Bertolle:London
Bainbridge, Christman, Jeffs: Staffs


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Re: Old Parish Registers Death - Linlithgow 1717
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 22 November 17 21:17 GMT (UK) »
As can be imagined coffins then would have varied a great deal in quality & the Mortcloth therefore, & there might be a choice of quality available in a parish, gave uniformity & respectability to the funeral.

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Re: Old Parish Registers Death - Linlithgow 1717
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 22 November 17 21:25 GMT (UK) »
Why didn't I see "years"?!

What would that mean (...forsaid years space)?

Aforementioned period of time?

I thought "forsaid" came from "forsay", to deny, forbid, etc.  ???

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Re: Old Parish Registers Death - Linlithgow 1717
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 23 November 17 08:37 GMT (UK) »
I've come across 'forsaid' hundreds and hundreds of times in wills etc.
It's just usually used to refer back to something that has been mentioned before - could be people, places, etc

As we can't see the whole page, or perhaps more than one page, to see what it refers to in this case, I'd hazard a guess it is the mortcloth dues for a number of months, or years. As you say, an 'aforementioned period of time'.
Lane, Burgess: Cheshire. Finney, Rogers, Gilman:Derbys
Cochran, Nicol, Paton, Bruce:Scotland. Bertolle:London
Bainbridge, Christman, Jeffs: Staffs

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Re: Old Parish Registers Death - Linlithgow 1717
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 23 November 17 09:56 GMT (UK) »
Aye, anent the aforesaid Mortcloth!  ;D

Scots, afore=before! ahint=behind!

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Re: Old Parish Registers Death - Linlithgow 1717
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 23 November 17 11:04 GMT (UK) »
THANKS - great response to whom has answered my question.

Further down on this page is written:Charge second mortecloath.
I need to read about this subject, 'mortecloth'
- Jean
Angus County Scotland, Ford, Meikle, Pullar
Caven County, Ireland - Crosby, Kirr
England: Hodson(Bristol) and Flooks
NZ - Ford, Hodson, Sutton
Canada, USA, Denmark ..