trying to find out where my great grandmother Frances Jones was born

[Cas (stallc)]

Likely Birth of mother of Frances Jones

TOMLINSON, ELLEN     -     No mothers maiden name listed so likely illegitimate
GRO Reference: 1872  M Quarter in WARRINGTON  Volume 08C  Page 195   

Age 17 at marriage Nov 1888. Also no father listed on marriage info.

Likely death
Name:   Age at Death (in years):    
JONES, ELLEN    Age   21     
GRO Reference: 1893  S Quarter in WARRINGTON  Volume 08C  Page 151   

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[Cas (stallc)]

1881 - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27G-4WKJ for Ellen

Frances Tomlinson married Peter Leicester in 1877, but is recorded as a widow in 1881.

So seems likely that Frances Jones was named after her grandmother Frances Tomlinson.

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[elzabels]

As mentioned earlier you can order a .pdf of this certificate for £6.00 from
www.gro.gov.uk

JONES, FRANCES       TOMLINSON     
GRO Reference: 1891  J Quarter in WARRINGTON  Volume 08C  Page 222

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[dorothyl]

Hi again.
My mum said my great gran  Frances Jones was born 12th of march. But didn't know the  year  or couldn't remember  it.  My grandparents  Alfred evan Jones  ( the son of Frances ) and eveline Jones  ( eveline  was born eveline shulman )  they was living at 59.rusholme road cholton on Medlock Manchester.  That address  is on my mum's birth certificate.  So I'm not sure  if  my great gran Frances Jones was  living in the same house.  According to my mum my great gran  didn't  like  my mum's mam.  If I remember  wrightly.  I could be wrong on that bit. I know  my great gran  wasn't  pleased about something.  Maybe  it was my grans  background.  My gran  eveline shulman  her dad was a German jew.  Which I only found out myself  a few year's ago.  I think  my  mum  knew  about  her mum's  background  and tried  to forget about it.  Because  my mum's grandfather  David Joseph shulman  (the father of eveline ) died  in  the  1920s

[rosie99]

Hi again.
My mum said my great gran  Frances Jones was born 12th of march. But didn't know the  year  or couldn't remember  it. 

The birth registration for Frances given to you by Elzabels in June qtr 1891 can be for a March birth.  The parents did not have to register it immediately they were given a few weeks so it would not always be shown in the quarter that they were born

[dorothyl]

Hi.
I've just been reading the message again.
You mentioned a Alfred evan Jones  as being born 17th September 1910 and passed away  9th of august 1946.

My grandad was born on the 27th of September 1910. But apparently  according to a  document I found somewhere  I saved  from a few year's ago.  It says  he was born in wales  ( which I'm not sure  because of  I've been told  2 different   places  and there is no trace of my grandad  being born in wales )   
It says registered  1914. It has the correct  dob on him.
I just don't understand  why  his not registered in wales.   He is buried in southern cemetery Manchester. I know that because my mum told me. As she visited  his grave  when she was younger.  After she had us all
Perhaps  he was born in England.  Which is very difficult for me to find out.
I feel like I've hit a brick wall. 
Thank you again for your help and time.

I really do appreciate all the help  this group  is giving me.

[lancsann]

The burial of the Ellen Jones age 21

Burial: 12 Jul 1893 St Elphin, Warrington, Lancashire, England
Ellen Jones -
    Age: 21 years
    Abode: Church St.

possible connection

Burial: 1 Oct 1893 St Elphin, Warrington, Lancs.
Sarah Jones -
    Age: 7 months
    Abode: 81 Church St.

JONES, SARAH    mmn =WHITTLE     WARRINGTON  Volume 08C  Page 274 (birth)

[heywood]

Hi Dorothy,

Here is a link to your new thread re your grandfather’s birth

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=783435.msg6381157#msg6381157

I have asked there if you have got the birth certificate for Alfred b 1910 to check the details?

Heywood

[josey]

You mentioned a Alfred evan Jones  as being born 17th September 1910 and passed away  9th of august 1946.
My grandad was born on the 27th of September 1910.

It's not impossible that they refer to the same man. It's possible the '1' of '17' was written unclearly or the figure was mistranscribed.