trying to find out where my great grandmother Frances Jones was born

[dorothyl]

Thank you  again.
 I'm just wondering  if  my grandad  was  born in wales.  Because of what my mum told me.
  I don't know anything else about  him  apart from  his dob  he was registered in England 1914. 
 I was told by the registra office in Manchester. Maybe  his mum was to embarrassed  to register him  due to being an unmarried women.  Or maybe  she completely  forgotten to register him. But I have somewhere.  It says  register date  / year  1914.
 
Would it make any difference  with the registra office in Manchester. To the difference  of what I've been told. By the registra office in wales.  I told the management register office. That I was told the s after  Manchester  sounds  like  south.  It is bothering me now.  I just hope that they can find my grandparents marriage certificate.

It's worrying me because  when you're on a budget  and have to save  money up  to buy  what you  want.  Which I have to do. And I can only buy 1 certificate at a time when I can.
Anyway  thank you again for all your help.
Yours sincerely
Mrs Dorothy Lucas

[rosie99]

If Manchester can't find it they should refund your money.   

The cheapest place to get certificates is from the GRO using references that you can generally find on freebmd -  https://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

Link to GRO - https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/Login.asp
Marriages are £9.25 including postage.
Certain births and deaths are available as PDF's -see the page I have linked.  PDF's are ideal for family history and currently cost £6.

[Cas (stallc)]

Looks like William remarried so Ellen must have died pre 1901 census, maybe after birth of William Jnr as Ernest looks like William/Edith's son. Think both were widowed when married?

Marriages Mar Q 1899   Same page
Jones    William Hopwood        Chorlton    8c   895    
Matthews    Edith Maria        Chorlton    8c   895    

1901 for family https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X9GW-RMW William a Shoemaker.

1891 for ref https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:7W5B-CW2 William a Shoemaker.

Bapt of Frances https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NF25-5BD

Marriage of William/Ellen https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NFNH-Z4N

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[BumbleB]

Manchester should be able to find the 1933 entry - the marriage, according to LancashireBMD, took place "Chorlton-on-Medlock Register Office or Registrar Attended" and the Registers are in Manchester. 

William Hopwood and Edith were married at St Clement, Longsight.

[BumbleB]

16 January 1899 - St Clement, Longsight - by Banns
William Hopwood Jones, 29, Widower, Shoemaker of 189 Earl Street.  Father:  George, Shoemaker
Edith Maria Matthews, 21, spinster of 189 Earl Street.  Father:  George, Shoemaker

Witnesses:  William Ernest Matthews and Alice Matthews

[Cas (stallc)]

William Hopwood Jones
Birth year   1869
Baptism date   09 Jul 1875
Residence   Warrington, Lancashire, England
Father   George Jones
Mother   Elizabeth Jones
Record set   England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975

Mothers maiden name was Hopwood. George/Elizabeth married 1859 Warrington, vol 8C
Page   152

JONES, WILLIAM  HOPWOOD  mmn   HOPWOOD     
GRO Reference: 1869  D Quarter in WARRINGTON  Volume 08C  Page 158
 

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[Gibel]

Edith Maria remarries in 1913 to Henry Waterhouse. Both of them are in the same grave as William Hopwood Jones and Alfred Evan Jones in the Southern Cemetery.

[BumbleB]

Grrrrhh!  Warrington is one of those towns which alternates between Lancashire and Cheshire.

Marriage venue for Elizabeth Hopwood and George Jones is St Elphin - CheshireBMD

[dorothyl]

Hi,
I can't  believe  how  much  you  have found out  for me.
If my mum was  here. She would  be  really  pleased.  As she didn't know much about her  gran.

I was wondering. If my great gran  Frances Jones was born in cholton. Which sounds correct.  How and where would she have had her son Alfred evan Jones? 

Perhaps  I miss understood  something  my mum said as she use to  switch from one conversation to another  which mad me laugh. I'd use to say what's that got to do with what you are telling me.  Then she would find the funny side.
What I mean  bye me misunderstanding  my mum. Perhaps  she mentioned  Rhos on sea.  For another reason.  Like she was in Abergele hospital from the age of 3.until  she was 8. She had a T.B Spine  due to being  thrown out of a wheel Barrow by 2 boys while playing.  Her dad would have gone to see her I think.  I do know  she said during her stay in hospital  her dad was in a ward  behind  her. What made me laugh  is when she said she figured away out of her plaster.  She would wriggle out of it. Then stand on it to look over the curtains  round her bed. When she knew that  a nurse was coming  she would  wriggle back into it.  This was just before she was sent home she said. I think  she wanted to come  home. 

Also  what I would like to add  is. There is a Edith  in  Frances Jones family.
My mum gave  me  a  lot of family members  names  but didn't know  any  birth days  or anything like that.
Thank you again for all your help.
I really do appreciate it thank you.
Yours sincerely
Mrs Dorothy Lucas