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1841 census
« on: Monday 27 November 17 23:12 GMT (UK) »
The 1841 census has some possible relations for me.
Their address listed is Helson Farm.
Civil parish Crediton.

Anyone any idea of where this farm is, I've tried to see on the Internet but wondered if this is the correct spelling etc.

Also looking for a marriage for them.
Samuel HAll aged 40 a Yeoman
Johanna  his wife aged 35
and some children.

Thanks for any help.
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Re: 1841 census
« Reply #1 on: Monday 27 November 17 23:14 GMT (UK) »
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and some children.

No age given for eldest child to give some clue to a likely marriage date - he was 12yrs

Son William is 1yr old - have you checked for a birth reg on freebmd then used GRO online to get mothers maiden name?  I can see one in 1839

https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/indexes_search.asp

Is Johanna on the 1851 census - where and when was she born?
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Re: 1841 census
« Reply #2 on: Monday 27 November 17 23:22 GMT (UK) »
There's a marriage of a Samuel Hall to a Johana Hill 2 Dec 1823 Sandford Devon could this be it also christening records for 8 children from 1825 to 1839 in Crediton Devon

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Re: 1841 census
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 28 November 17 00:58 GMT (UK) »
That marriage sounds right - there is 82 year old Elizabeth HILL living with the family in 1841 at Crediton.


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« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 28 November 17 03:09 GMT (UK) »
I think it is "Helson Farm", though I can't help with its location. In 1870 there is a newspaper report of a Mr Searle of Helson Farm, Crediton who "fell down and expired" leaving a widow and 11 children.
Exeter and Plymouth Gazette, Friday, February 4, 1870, Vol. LXXXII, Issue 4065, p.8.

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« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 28 November 17 03:40 GMT (UK) »
There is an article about Samuel's death in 1848
Exeter and Plymouth Gazette (Exeter, England), Saturday, March 4, 1848, Vol. LIX, Issue 2930, p.7.
I could attach if you haven't seen it?

Says he was an innkeeper at Coplestone.

Modified to add: Also a sale of his property (after his death), the Coplestone Inn (to let) and farm called Higher Elston.
Exeter and Plymouth Gazette (Exeter, England), Saturday, March 18, 1848, Vol. LIX, Issue 2938, p.1.

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« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 28 November 17 03:45 GMT (UK) »
I think it is "Helson Farm", though I can't help with its location. In 1870 there is a newspaper report of a Mr Searle of Helson Farm, Crediton who "fell down and expired" leaving a widow and 11 children.
Exeter and Plymouth Gazette, Friday, February 4, 1870, Vol. LXXXII, Issue 4065, p.8.

Alternative spelling could be what appears to be Mr Searle's Widow and family in 1871 census:-

ELSTON Farm headed by Jane Searle 48 RG10/2162/73/18
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Pelly/Pelley/Kingsbury/Challis/Nalder/Rochester/Raydenbow

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« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 28 November 17 03:47 GMT (UK) »
Sorry keyboard, I modified my post to add "Higher Elston" while you were typing apparently.  ;D

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« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 28 November 17 04:39 GMT (UK) »
Wow thanks so much for all this info. I do not have any record relating to his death or sale of property, would love to have it.
Kind regards to you all.
Hall -Devon,
Atkinson-Gateshead Durham.
Weir - Swansea
Sumner - Warwickshire
Morrall - Warwickshire
Hill -Cornwall, Australia and NZ
Penhallurick - Cornwall and Australia
McNally - Ireland and UK
Tooze - Devon