1841 census

[maddys52]

There is a death for an Edward HOLE registered Tiverton in 1856, aged 6. I suspect this is the Edward HALE born 1850 with mmn TOOZE. (Edward HOLE married Elizabeth TOOZE in Tiverton 1846.)

That leaves Edward HILL, who I think is the child of John and Sarah (though you would need to get the birth cert to be sure), but based on mother's maiden name and other children born to them registered at Tiverton, I'm pretty sure this is them in the 1851 census at Kentisbeare: (all born at Kentisbeare)

John Hill        44    Kentisbeare   mason
Sarah Hill        42    
Sarah Hill        18    
Mary A Hill     16    
Henry Hill         14    
William Hill     12    
James Hill      9    
Charles Hill    5    
Edward Hill    0    

HO107/1888 / 332 p16

They also have another son John b c1831 who is with them in the 1841 census.

I can't see Edward in later censuses, though at least Henry and James are also masons in the 1861 census.

(There are 5 Edward HILL's born in Devon between 1849 and 1851, and an Edwin Mugford HILL in 1849 that you could also look at? - all can be found on Free BMD)

Modified to add: Edwin Mugford HILL appears in the 1881 census at Bovey Tracey, so you can rule him out.

[telephonist]

Sorry, yes I should have realised it said Devon on the marriage cert. 

According to the GRO, there is an Edward HILL registered Sep qtr 1850 Tiverton (10/256) mother's maiden name SALTER. There is also an Edward HALE registered Jun qtr 1850 Tiverton (10/265) mmn TOOZE.

Will look for them ...

Freebmd has Edward HALL reg June qtr 1850 Tiverton - is this the same as your man above HALE

[maddys52]

Yes, the GRO have transcribed it as HALE, whilst it is HALL on FreeBMD. Tiverton 10/ 265

[maddys52]

A long shot - there is a 17 year old Edwin HALL arriving in Hervey Bay Queensland on 30 March 1864 on the Prince Consort which departed Plymouth 25 Dec 1863. 

[telephonist]

Thanks so much for all for help, this is an interesting find.
So right now I have an Edwin Hall born 1847 Crediton.
In the census with other siblings in family - mother Johanna as head in 1851 ,aged 4 years then father Samuel killed in accident 1848 .
then in 1861 census at a boarding school Teignbridge house. aged 14 years.
1861 census his mother is home alone.

Now your possible find of Edwin coming to Australia 1863 as 17 year old.
 If only.....Even if this is him how could i ever prove it?? need to find how he got to NZ if it tis him.....
And an Edwin Hall who dies in NZ 3/12/1912

[maddys52]

I think if it were me I'd be ordering that death certificate. I know you said you looked at it some time ago, but unless you know for certain it is not your man, it could have some very enlightening info on it. 

[telephonist]

Thanks so much , I am going to get the cert, will let you know how and when i get on.
Merry Christmas and thanks for all your input.

[telephonist]

There is a death for an Edward HOLE registered Tiverton in 1856, aged 6. I suspect this is the Edward HALE born 1850 with mmn TOOZE. (Edward HOLE married Elizabeth TOOZE in Tiverton 1846.)

That leaves Edward HILL, who I think is the child of John and Sarah (though you would need to get the birth cert to be sure), but based on mother's maiden name and other children born to them registered at Tiverton, I'm pretty sure this is them in the 1851 census at Kentisbeare: (all born at Kentisbeare)

John Hill        44    Kentisbeare   mason
Sarah Hill        42    
Sarah Hill        18    
Mary A Hill     16    
Henry Hill         14    
William Hill     12    
James Hill      9    
Charles Hill    5    
Edward Hill    0    

HO107/1888 / 332 p16

They also have another son John b c1831 who is with them in the 1841 census.

I can't see Edward in later censuses, though at least Henry and James are also masons in the 1861 census.

(There are 5 Edward HILL's born in Devon between 1849 and 1851, and an Edwin Mugford HILL in 1849 that you could also look at? - all can be found on Free BMD)

Modified to add: Edwin Mugford HILL appears in the 1881 census at Bovey Tracey, so you can rule him out.

Hello , I did get the pdf of the birth certificate and it is as you say. Are you able to look on the 1851 census for the Edward Hole married TOOZE for that family please?

[maddys52]

Unfortunately, I can't see the family on the 1851 census. From the GRO, it appears there is only 2 children registered at Tiverton with mmn TOOZE: Elizabeth HALL in 1847 and Edward HALE in 1850. (Very difficult with all the possibilities in surname!)

Did you get the death certificate for Edwin HALL in NZ?