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Re: Charlotte O'Bryan ( married George Ross ) can you help solve this mystery?
« Reply #18 on: Wednesday 29 November 17 10:28 GMT (UK) »
Yes that looks like her. I think she is in the Workhouse later.

In 1891 the family are in the Workhouse in Bromsgrove.

Birthplaces:
George snr Chippenham, Wiltshire
Charlotte Cardiff
Alice Stratford on Avon
William Warwick

GRO has a birth for Alice Ross no mother’s name 1878 December quarter and
William, Warwick mother O’Bryan as we know.

That means we have two possible births where mother’s name isn’t shown  :-\
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Re: Charlotte O'Bryan ( married George Ross ) can you help solve this mystery?
« Reply #19 on: Wednesday 29 November 17 10:43 GMT (UK) »
Going back to Charlotte - who did she give as her father on her second marriage?

Father is named as Thomas CRADDOCK, Gardener(?)

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Re: Charlotte O'Bryan ( married George Ross ) can you help solve this mystery?
« Reply #20 on: Wednesday 29 November 17 11:05 GMT (UK) »
I think that the Charlotte ROSS who married George WOODING at Powick in 1914 is this one here:

1911
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X7BS-SLN

1851
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGBZ-W78

She married firstly to William JOYNER, and secondly to George ROSS in 1907.

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Re: Charlotte O'Bryan ( married George Ross ) can you help solve this mystery?
« Reply #21 on: Wednesday 29 November 17 14:00 GMT (UK) »
This one struck me earlier but I couldn’t make a connection or find a birth  :-\

1851 1836/756/16

Christian Malford

David Cipher   62 yrs
Deborah Cipher   61 yrs
George Cipher   15 yrs
Phillip Roush lodger 69 yrs
George Roush lodger 9 yrs b Christian  Malford

Perhaps the surname is RUSS or ROSE or something similar.  Worthy RUSS and Jane CASWELL baptised a son named George in 1842:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NF18-G32

He isn't with them in 1851 but I cannot see a death.

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Re: Charlotte O'Bryan ( married George Ross ) can you help solve this mystery?
« Reply #22 on: Wednesday 29 November 17 16:15 GMT (UK) »
I think that the Charlotte ROSS who married George WOODING at Powick in 1914 is this one here:

1911
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X7BS-SLN

1851
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGBZ-W78

She married firstly to William JOYNER, and secondly to George ROSS in 1907.

Debra  :)

So that is not Charlotte Ross  (O’Bryan) then.
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Re: Charlotte O'Bryan ( married George Ross ) can you help solve this mystery?
« Reply #23 on: Wednesday 29 November 17 16:24 GMT (UK) »
This one struck me earlier but I couldn’t make a connection or find a birth  :-\

1851 1836/756/16

Christian Malford

David Cipher   62 yrs
Deborah Cipher   61 yrs
George Cipher   15 yrs
Phillip Roush lodger 69 yrs
George Roush lodger 9 yrs b Christian  Malford

Perhaps the surname is RUSS or ROSE or something similar.  Worthy RUSS and Jane CASWELL baptised a son named George in 1842:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NF18-G32

He isn't with them in 1851 but I cannot see a death.

Debra  :)

Yes I agree re the variations of the surname.
Not sure re George Russ but it looks tempting.
I would have thought that Worthy was connected to Philip but his father seems to be John :-\
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Re: Charlotte O'Bryan ( married George Ross ) can you help solve this mystery?
« Reply #24 on: Wednesday 29 November 17 18:52 GMT (UK) »
Phillip Russ of Christian Malford married Elizabeth Field of Brinkworth on 20th March 1809.
Their children could lead to George’s parents?

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Re: Charlotte O'Bryan ( married George Ross ) can you help solve this mystery?
« Reply #25 on: Wednesday 29 November 17 20:22 GMT (UK) »
These are the children, there may be more because of the various spellings of the surname.

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Still wondering about the surname though - It seems to be Roust so would you then get Ross  :-\
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Re: Charlotte O'Bryan ( married George Ross ) can you help solve this mystery?
« Reply #26 on: Wednesday 29 November 17 21:31 GMT (UK) »
Possibility for George Russ here in 1861 -working as a Carter

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7KB-LYP
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