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The word/name Baiddey
« on: Tuesday 28 November 17 04:34 GMT (UK) »
I have a 2nd Great Grandmother that I have found in the 1851 Scottish Census listed as Mary Baiddey Taylor. Does Baiddey mean 'baby' as she was only 5 months old at the time. I cannot find her birth record from searching on the Scotlands People website. Although her surname is Taylor on the census I know that her mother's husband William Taylor died in February 1849 so he cannot be the father. Any other clues for searching her birth record would be appreciated.

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Re: The word/name Baiddey
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 28 November 17 07:29 GMT (UK) »
What name does she marry or die under, and does her death certificate give any more clues?

Just for information, she was born in Paisley, Renfrewshire on the 1851 census. 

Have you looked on the actual census to see what the word looks like?

Have you found her in 1861?

Do the whole family emigrate - as you posted on here in the middle of the Scottish night?

Statutory registration of births only started in 1855 in Scotland.

What was his Mother's maiden name?

Sorry about all the questions, but we are here to help.

Belated Welcome.

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Re: The word/name Baiddey
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 28 November 17 07:47 GMT (UK) »
On the 1841 census for the family, there appears to be another Mary, age 1, so did that Mary also die, or do I have the wrong family?

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living in Neilston, Renfrewshire at West Arthurlie
William Taylor   25 salesman
Helen Taylor   25
Marion Taylor   3
Mary Taylor   1

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Re: The word/name Baiddey
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 29 November 17 00:39 GMT (UK) »
Hello Chempat, sorry I live in Australia hence the time of the posts. After more investigation I have realised that the William Taylor I mentioned who died in 1849 is not correct. I downloaded a copy of his will and his wife is Mary, not Helen, so different family.
Regarding my 2nd Great Grandmother, I have a copy of her Death Certificate and her name is listed as Mary Taylor Smith and that she had been in the Colony of NSW for 50 years. This makes sense as she was listed on the 1861 Census aged 10, and does not appear on the 1871 Census. She died on 6th February 1918 aged 67, so she came to Australia in 1867/68 when she was approximately 17. I have been unable to determine how she arrived, i.e. as a free settler or convict. She married David Smith and they had 3 boys, one of whom is my Grandfather. David was born in Australia. On her Marriage Certificate her name is Mary Taylor Smith, Spinster. No information about her Mother or Father is given, just her occupation of domestic duties.
The family you mention in the 1841 Census may be the same, although Helen Taylor is listed as 25, and in the 1851 Census she is 38 so a difference of 3 years, which could be OK as her birth date is given as Approx 1813. There could have been two children named Mary with the first one dying as an infant. I have other relatives in my tree who have had children die, only to name a later sibling with the same name, can be confusing.
I have a copy of the 1851 Census, but it is hard to read some of the words. I got the word Baiddey from the Ancestry website search on the census and it must have been transcribed as that. Helen is listed as Head of the House up until the 1881 Census.
Thank you so much for your reply. I will keep digging but would appreciate any help.
Kind Regards
Susan Leckie (nee Smith)
PS Just as a bit of background, my father-in-law is Scottish and also lived in Paisley, small world isn't it.  :)


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Re: The word/name Baiddey
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 29 November 17 06:20 GMT (UK) »
Do you think you could scan a little of that census to show the word Baiddey and some of the surrounding words for comparison, so we can all have a guess as to what it is?

On the 1841 census the adults' ages have been 'rounded down' to the nearest 5 years, so age 28 would be recorded as 25.

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Re: The word/name Baiddey
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 29 November 17 07:18 GMT (UK) »
Hello again, I have attached the page from the 1851 Census. Mary is the last entry on the page. I have been looking at Scotlands People which is a great site and have found a marriage certificate and a proclamation for Helen Taylor and she did marry a William Taylor. Her maiden name was Lochhead.
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Re: The word/name Baiddey
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 29 November 17 23:07 GMT (UK) »
That could be Brashly or some other letter combination variation - suggest you put that on the Handwriting Deciphering board for their interpretation.

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Re: The word/name Baiddey
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 30 November 17 00:48 GMT (UK) »
Ok shall do. Thank you chempat for your help. By the way, what country do you live in?
Susan

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Re: The word/name Baiddey
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 30 November 17 06:36 GMT (UK) »
I am in England - but I do have a Scottish son-in-law (about 30 miles from Paisley).