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Adoption in Gibralter 1836C
« on: Thursday 30 November 17 11:58 GMT (UK) »
Hello one and all....trying to find proof of birth GIBRALTER 1836 for ELLEN LAURA BALLANTYNE as stated per marriage cert to CHARLES EDWARD PUGH 1857..her parents on marriage cert are Capt JOHN BALLANTYNE royal navy wife ELLEN BALLANTYNE nee MOODY... would adoption  records be kept for this region and era?  Thanks in advance ELLENS other married name was ST CLAIR......Craig
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Re: ADOPTION IN GIBRALTER 1836C
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 30 November 17 18:28 GMT (UK) »
Adoption as we understand it today did not legally come into force in England until 1927 - Gibralter being an overseas territory may have been later.

It is extremely unlikely that any records of any adoption from your date exist unless the adoption was organised by an agency such as the Church.
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Re: Adoption in Gibralter 1836C
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 30 November 17 21:19 GMT (UK) »
There was an Adoption Act in Gibraltar in 1951?
Suggesting that legal adoption started in that year?
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Re: Adoption in Gibralter 1836C
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 30 November 17 23:33 GMT (UK) »
Why do you think that she was adopted?
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Re: Adoption in Gibralter 1836C
« Reply #4 on: Friday 01 December 17 08:18 GMT (UK) »
There is only one John Ballantyne in the Navy Lists in the 1830's.

Born 1775 - here's a summary of his career:
https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/A_Naval_Biographical_Dictionary/Ballantyne,_John

https://goo.gl/21V2kn


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Re: Adoption in Gibralter 1836C
« Reply #5 on: Friday 01 December 17 08:44 GMT (UK) »
John Ballantyne, retired RN Commander, appears on the Scottish censuses for 1841, 1851 and 1861 at Anstruther Easter in Fife. His wife sister Helen is with him in 1841 and 1851. He was unmarried. No wife or children.

Scotlands People has an 1863 "Inventory; Disposition and Deed of Settlement" for his estate. Might be worth checking for any mention of Ellen.

Ballantyne: At Anstruther, on the 4th inst., John Ballantyne, Esq., commander R.N., in the 87th year of his age (Dunfermline Press 11 March 1863)
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Re: Adoption in Gibralter 1836C
« Reply #6 on: Friday 01 December 17 10:26 GMT (UK) »
Could someone please look at this to see Fathers Occp?


Name:   Agnes Ballantine
Birth 12 Dec 1839, Woolwich, Kent, England
Father:   John Ballantine
Mother:   Ellen Ballantine
Baptism   16 Feb 1840
Baptism Place:   Woolwich, Kent, England
Denomination:   Scots Church the

Is it Gunner ? Royal Artillary, 3 Battalion?

Whoohoo ;D

BALLANTYNE, AGNES, Mothers mn MOODY***
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Re: Adoption in Gibralter 1836C
« Reply #7 on: Friday 01 December 17 10:30 GMT (UK) »
1851 Census
Woolwich, Kent
John Ballantyne, 45, Head, Mar, Labourer in Dockyard, born Scotland
Ellen Ballantyne, 41, Wife, Mar, born Scotland
ELLEN Ballantyne, 14, Daug, born Woolwich, Kent
Agnes Ballantyne, 12, Daug, born Woolwich

Arrival Australia;
Miss E Ballantyne, Sydney, New South Wales
Voyage Arrival Date:   24 Oct 1854
Vessel Name: Countess Of Seafield
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Re: Adoption in Gibralter 1836C
« Reply #8 on: Friday 01 December 17 10:36 GMT (UK) »
Quote
s it Gunner ? Royal Artillary, 3 Battalion?

Gunner & Driver in the Royal Artillery 3rd battalion

Looks like you've cracked it Trish!
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