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Re: Thames/Auckland area DAVID /MAKARETA -REHIAI aka REHARI
« Reply #54 on: Sunday 03 December 17 20:29 GMT (UK) »
Thank you.


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Re: Thames/Auckland area DAVID /MAKARETA -REHIAI aka REHARI
« Reply #55 on: Sunday 03 December 17 20:41 GMT (UK) »
OP, re the Maori side of your family....if you descend from Wi/Wiremu Rihari/Rehari then perhaps it is time to dredge back the memories to see where the idea that this family came from Kaeo originated.  A family story can be a very valuable clue if it can be pinned down.  There is a huge amount of whakapapa tracing going on at the moment and many specialists and I think without some sort of 'explored' clue about location we could be looking in the wrong places and possibly standing on toes inadvertently.

Are you able to help further with this.  Might mean going back to your own family/siblings etc and asking

'What did you hear Mum/Dad saying about where Wi came from?'

Once you get wide enough then possibly you will find that there is a record from some other part of Wi's family and you can clip your family's details on it that and get a record back to the eponymous ancestor/canoe.   

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Re: Thames/Auckland area DAVID /MAKARETA -REHIAI aka REHARI
« Reply #56 on: Sunday 03 December 17 21:19 GMT (UK) »
Hello again Barbara

Another means of advancing your search > and of ensuring that you have the correct parents for William REHARI [REHIAI ] > would be to obtain a copy of the 1893 marriage record to Lavinia HAMILTON.
We here, recommend purchasing the "printout" version of the record, which gives the maximum amount of information.  Cost is NZ$ 25 ... and the printout can be emailed to you.

https://www.bdmhistoricalrecords.dia.govt.nz/search/
As well as ordering information, the above link gives details of what was recorded on a New Zealand
B,D or M records in various eras.   

I'm still looking for further info on Adam WALTERS for you.

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Re: Thames/Auckland area DAVID /MAKARETA -REHIAI aka REHARI
« Reply #57 on: Sunday 03 December 17 21:25 GMT (UK) »
I was only involved in this query right at the very beginning when we had no idea of dates or locations of the original marriage mentioned - in addition, assuming it was in the British Isles!

Can I say I think you 2 have done some amazing work and uncovered so much information. I had no clue just how complicated New Zealand research could be with the traditional Maori names.

I am SO impressed by all your hard work and the outcomes.

Greetings.

By way of an explanation while New Zealand was very quick to adopt civil registration legislation in the 1850's, prior to that date B D & M recordings were only as good as the newly NZ created churches kept and saved records.

Missionaries wrote detailed reports back to their supporters but as Maori had no writtren language it was the phonetic spelling by the German, French, and other european pioneers that we have to go by.

With Maori, the first big written family genealogy recordings came about through our lengthy Maori Land Court records, followed by the first voting rights, and then the compulsory requirement for Maori Civil B D & M registrations about 1905 [from memory]

Therefore for those of us researching pioneers etc, spellings in print did not become standardised until post WW1.

Very simplified I know, but an indication how tough it can be.

Alan.
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Re: Thames/Auckland area DAVID /MAKARETA -REHIAI aka REHARI
« Reply #58 on: Monday 04 December 17 14:46 GMT (UK) »
Alan -- thank you for your interesting and eye-opening explanation. I had no idea that Maoris had no written language.

Research must be far more than just 'tough' -- I don't know how on earth you manage to do it.
West Yorks; ---- Illingworth, Marshall, Muffit/Muffett/Murfitt, Barber, Sanderson, Townend, Barraclough, Lister -- and lots more. Locations mainly in Birstall parish - Hartshead-- Drighlington --Adwalton --Mirfield - Heckmondwike --Kippax - Sherburn in Elmet.

Ireland ------Cleary, Whelan - Nenagh.
Dowling - Monasterevin
Daly - Westmeath

Lancashire ---- Smith from Alston , Johnson and Fairclough---- Tarleton and loads more from Tarleton and Accrington areas.