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Offline Guyana

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Re: Come in the Christmas Smileys...You're late!
« Reply #63 on: Thursday 07 December 17 21:26 GMT (UK) »
But .... but .....  I used to live about half a mile away from the chocolate factory in Bournville, B'ham.   The smell was intoxicating !

Do you mean to say the good old Quaker chocolate making family firms (Frys, Cadbury, etc) .... are now FOREIGN ?   Perhaps Brexit will mean they all come back to the UK.



(And in case anyone accuses me of being anti-foreign choc, I love Belgian chocolate !)
I used to work in Aston, B'ham, just down-wind from the brewery and the HP Sauce factory. The smell was both spicy AND intoxicating!
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Re: Come in the Christmas Smileys...You're late!
« Reply #64 on: Monday 18 December 17 08:57 GMT (UK) »
"Come on folks - it's Advent Sunday today!!  Christmas starts on 25th December and lasts for 12 days".

I stand to be corrected here but in the Christian calendar doesn't Christmas start on 1st Sunday in Advent where you can say "Happy Christmas" and continues till 12th night?

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Re: Come in the Christmas Smileys...You're late!
« Reply #65 on: Monday 18 December 17 10:35 GMT (UK) »

Advent (the fourth Sunday before Christmas) started on the 3 rd December 2017 and ends on the 24 th December 2017.

Christmas day is the first day of traditional Christmas celebrations and continues until the 12 th day after Christmas. (Epiphany)

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Re: Come in the Christmas Smileys...You're late!
« Reply #66 on: Monday 18 December 17 11:13 GMT (UK) »

I stand to be corrected here but in the Christian calendar doesn't Christmas start on 1st Sunday in Advent where you can say "Happy Christmas" and continues till 12th night?


Advent and Christmas are different and separate seasons of the Christian Year. Advent precedes Christmas, which starts on Christmas Day  :)
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Re: Come in the Christmas Smileys...You're late!
« Reply #67 on: Monday 18 December 17 11:23 GMT (UK) »
The problem is that over the years, the commercial Christmas has started earlier and earlier and people have forgotten that the actual festival doesn't start until Christmas Day.
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Re: Come in the Christmas Smileys...You're late!
« Reply #68 on: Monday 18 December 17 11:27 GMT (UK) »
Good morning,

I've always believed that christmas starts on 24th, that being the first night. Also when people in several european countries have their celebration evening meal, not on christmas day as we do.

12th night is the 4th and decorations and the tree are taken down on the 5th to herald the end of festivities.

The 12 days and all the feasting and decorations are pagan ceremonies, not to be confused with the religous side of things such as advent and epiphany. These are not fixed dates but are sundays before and after christmas day.

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Re: Come in the Christmas Smileys...You're late!
« Reply #69 on: Monday 18 December 17 11:40 GMT (UK) »
I've always thought that 12th Night was the 6th January. However, I think there is a lot of confusion and it varies from the 4th, 5th or 6th, depending when you start counting!
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Re: Come in the Christmas Smileys...You're late!
« Reply #70 on: Monday 18 December 17 12:29 GMT (UK) »
Back again,

I suppose it depends on many things but basically the 12 days as we know them are relatively modern. They were brought into the church calendar in the 16th century. Prior to that for most people the period following the alleged birth of christ (nowhere does the bible give that date) it was followed by a series of saints days. These would all have been strict religous days with none of the feasting and such that we know as christmas.

We consider it unlucky to leave decorations up after 12th night but in Germany it is traditional to leave them up until candlemas, 2nd feb.

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Re: Come in the Christmas Smileys...You're late!
« Reply #71 on: Monday 18 December 17 21:47 GMT (UK) »
   As JenB said, in the church Advent is quite different, and rather sombre, with no flowers in church and purple altar frontals, the same as for Lent. (And Advent hymns, not Christmas ones!)
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