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Re: Susanna Maria Barrett
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 03 December 17 13:01 GMT (UK) »
Banns for the marriage have James of Wraysbury & Susanna of the parish of Forest Hill, Oxfordshire
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Re: Susanna Maria Barrett
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 03 December 17 13:09 GMT (UK) »
There is no evidence of a live birth at the same time as William Henry in 1876. 
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Re: Susanna Maria Barrett
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 03 December 17 13:22 GMT (UK) »
1861 Census has a James R Clark born c 1852 Wyrawisbury, Buckinghamshire.
Living with his parents Richard/Eliza.
Still with them in 1871 Census.

That is why I posted the info on the Buckinghamshire Susanna just in case they met there.

EDIT just realised I had 1871 Census, it should have been 1851 and have corrected it  :-[

As I said there are so many Susan/Susannah Barret/ts around including one born c 1843 Dunstew, Oxfordshire

The M/C is a must to get.

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Re: Susanna Maria Barrett
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 03 December 17 14:11 GMT (UK) »
Maybe this family?

Other Barretts getting married at Forest Hill around that time are
Anne Elizabeth Barrett in 1874 and Louisa Martha Barrett in 1876.

Baptised at Wytham with parents William  (a gamekeeper) and Ann

Anne Elizabeth b1839
Louisa Martha b1848

On the 1851 census, they also have a sister Susanna, plus other siblings.

Mother's maiden name appears to be Bowell, but it looks like the older children weren't registered.

ADDED  This is the Susanna that Trish mentioned earlier.  Baptised 1842 in Wappenham.   Her sister's were baptised in Wytham

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Re: Susanna Maria Barrett
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 03 December 17 16:16 GMT (UK) »
jomcd967 found birth entries proving Susannah's maiden name was Barrett, which eliminates the possibility that she was a widow.  We could continue digging into potential baptisms and census entries for Susannah BARRETT, but it wouldn't really prove that we have found the right one.  I wondered where the couple might have met, which is why I looked around the county where they lived after they married, but that is only supposition.

Either the marriage certificate or the NZ death cert are essential to prove Susannah's parentage.

I had a quick look on the NZ register - there are Susannahs but the death ages don't fit.  There is one which might be her:
1901/6956  CLARK Susan Maria age 54
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Re: Susanna Maria Barrett
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 03 December 17 16:38 GMT (UK) »
There is no evidence of a live birth at the same time as William Henry in 1876.

They also had a daughter
CLARK, WINIFRED  HILDA     mmn BARRETT     
1879  Sept Quarter
ETON, BUCKS  Volume 03A  Page 514
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Re: Susanna Maria Barrett
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 03 December 17 17:05 GMT (UK) »
Tracing the kids:

William Henry Clark b. 1876 Eton, schoolmaster, d. 1959
Winifred Hilda Clark b. 1879 Eton m. James Bennie 1905 in NZ d. 1963
Percy Newton Clark b. 1882 NZ died WWI  (born Waitara according to his Military records)
Dorothy Minnie Clark b. 1885 NZ m. Frederick Rands 1912 in NZ d. 1976
her husband died in 1919: https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/CHP19190221.2.81?query=%22Frederick%20Rand%22
https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/NZFL19190313.2.31.4?query=%22Dorothy%20Rands%22

The family were strongly linked to the Methodist church and James Richard Clark became a Methodist preacher:
https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/CHP19280802.2.13?query=%22James%20Richard%20CLark%22

The family were in Kumara when Susan died:
https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/TC19011210.2.22?query=%22J%20R%20Clark%22
https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/WCT19011210.2.21?query=%22J%20R%20Clark%22
https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/WCT19011217.2.20?query=%22J%20R%20Clark%22

Unfortunately nothing about her family in England in this, nor any mention of how the family got to NZ... must have been between 1879 (Winifred's birth) and 1882 (Percy's birth)...
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Re: Susanna Maria Barrett
« Reply #16 on: Monday 04 December 17 00:43 GMT (UK) »
Interesting that there is a William Austen Barrett, tailor, born 1815 Northampton marrying a Charlotte Heath, 1843 in Headington Oxford. Other than his marriage and baptism I can't find him.

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Re: Susanna Maria Barrett
« Reply #17 on: Monday 04 December 17 09:07 GMT (UK) »
A difficult one and many possibilities!

Hi Kiwi Carol,
Do you have the Death Cert of Susannah?
Are you willing to get the 1875 M/C?


Hi LilyM,
Thanks for that info definitely very possible there is a connection.


Trish :)
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