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William Somerville Death
« on: Sunday 03 December 17 22:24 GMT (UK) »
Can anyone help find a death for William,
William married Janet Wotherspoon / Muirhead on 9th July 1863 in Edinburgh.
He was actually Janet's nephew through marriage and this has been proved beyond doubt with certificates.  Possibly this is why they wentto Edinburgh to marry out of the area.  The marriage certificate shows Janet as a spinster when in fact she was a widow!!
The spelling of his name differs on the census records.  Sometimes it is Summerville / Somervill etc
The last trace I have of him is on the 1881 Census living with his Mother, Mary Muirhead in Carmyle, Old Monkland, Airdrie.
1881 Census for Janet  is at 8 Anderson Street,New Monkland, living with her daughter Mary Muirhead (to her first husband James Muirhead) and William & Janet's son Ebeneezer Summerville and also Mary Wotherspoon(Janets sister)
Janets death was regstered by their daughter Annie.
Would dearly love to find out what happened to William.

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Re: William Somerville Death
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 03 December 17 23:03 GMT (UK) »
No birthyear given in post

Have you looked on SP?

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Janets death was regstered by their daughter Annie

What year and is she shown as a widow?
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Re: William Somerville Death
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 03 December 17 23:12 GMT (UK) »
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The last trace I have of him is on the 1881 Census living with his Mother, Mary Muirhead in Carmyle, Old Monkland, Airdrie.

Is there some confusion here?  His daughter was Mary Muirhead living with her mother Janet in 1881
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Re: William Somerville Death
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 03 December 17 23:22 GMT (UK) »
Is this the 1881 entry you are referring to?

Address - Carmyle

William Sommerville 44 occ Millar b Carluke - shown as head of household
Mary Sommerville - 68 mother b Whitburn, Linlithgowshire
Old Monkland Western District ED 3 Page 3 Line 9

The 1881 for Janet shows her as 51 and daughter Mary Muirhead as 31
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Re: William Somerville Death
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 03 December 17 23:37 GMT (UK) »
1891 census entry for Janet ( shown as Jessie Sommerville) describes her as married rather than widowed, but no sign of William ( per FindMyPast).
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Re: William Somerville Death
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 03 December 17 23:54 GMT (UK) »
Something does not add up here

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William married Janet Wotherspoon / Muirhead on 9th July 1848 in Edinburgh.

Janet was 51 in 1881 so b 1830.  William was 44 in 1881 so b 1837.  An 1848 marriage makes no sense as william was only 11yrs old.  You say Janet was previously married yet she was only 18 in 1848 and her daughter Mary Muirhead was born 1850??
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Re: William Somerville Death
« Reply #6 on: Monday 04 December 17 00:11 GMT (UK) »
Janet married James Moorhead in Aug 1848 Bothwell and William Sommerville in 1863 in Newington from Scotlands People

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Re: William Somerville Death
« Reply #7 on: Monday 04 December 17 00:26 GMT (UK) »
See reply 1 re info requested from Janetís death cert
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Re: William Somerville Death
« Reply #8 on: Monday 04 December 17 00:28 GMT (UK) »
I'm afraid that I am totally muddled by your initial post.

William married Janet Wotherspoon / Muirhead on 9th July 1848 in Edinburgh.
That marriage was in 1863, not in 1848. It was James Muirhead whom she married on 9 July 1848, in Carluke.

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He was actually Janet's nephew through marriage and this has been proved beyond doubt with certificates.
Can you expand on that? Who were his parents, who were her parents, and what was the connection?

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The marriage certificate shows Janet as a spinster when in fact she was a widow!!
Not unheard of.

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The spelling of his name differs on the census records.  Sometimes it is Summerville / Somervill etc
Nothing remarkable about that. Spelling was a very inexact science until about the end of the 19th century.

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The last trace I have of him is on the 1881 Census living with his Mother, Mary Muirhead in Carmyle, Old Monkland, Airdrie.
Airdrie is in New Monkland, not Old Monkland. I think Carmyle probably belongs to Old Monkland.

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1881 Census for Janet  is at 8 Anderson Street,New Monkland, living with her daughter Mary Muirhead (to her first husband James Muirhead) and William & Janet's son Ebeneezer Summerville and also Mary Wotherspoon(Janets sister)
So you are saying that William and his wife were living apart in 1881?

Is this a correct timeline? A couple of questions in bold.
1820/1 James Muirhead born in Carluke
1826 Mary Wotherspoon, (daughter of James W and Janet Sword?), born in New Monkland
1829 Janet Wotherspoon, (daughter of James W and Janet Sword?), born in New Monkland
1837 William Somerville, son of Eben(ezer) S and Mary Muirhead, baptised in Old Monkland
1848 James Muirhead and Janet Wotherspoon married in Carluke
1849 Mary Muirhead, daughter of James M and Janet Wotherspoon, baptised in Wishaw
1851 Margaret Muirhead, daughter of James M and Janet Wotherspoon, baptised in New Monkland
1853 Thomas Muirhead, son of James M and Janet Wotherspoon, baptised in New Monkland
1854 James, son of James M and Janet Wotherspoon, baptised in New Monkland (NB this is from the 'Community Contributed' IGI therefore not to be trusted)
1856 John and Christina Muirhead, twin son and daughter of James M and Janet Wotherspoon, baptised in New Monkland
1859 Janet Muirhead, daughter of James M and Janet Wotherspoon, baptised in New Monkland
1860 James Muirhead dies in Old Monkland
1863 William Somerville and Janet Wotherspoon or Muirhead married in Edinburgh
1863 Ann Somerville, daughter of William S and Janet Wotherspoon, born in Old Monkland
1866 Ebenezer Somerville, son of William S and Janet Wotherspoon, born in Old Monkland
?--? Death of Mary Muirhead or Somerville - who registered her death?
?--? Death of Janet Wotherspoon or Muirhead or Somerville - was she described as a widow in her death certificate?

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