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Offline DavyTee68

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Re: Three Elsender Brothers marry Three Calvert Sisters surely not ?
« Reply #18 on: Monday 04 December 17 18:00 GMT (UK) »
According to deaths Dorothy Elsender was born 26/07/1924 and died 2012 Newcastle, I wonder if this is the right one

Using the free search to the 1939 shows Dorothy Calvert/Elsender was indeed born in July 1924.

The Dorothy who was born Newcastle, mother's maiden name Braithwaite was born 1925 (or at least that's when her birth was registered).

Again using the free search to the 1939 reveals that in the same household with Dorothy was a sister born 1929, called Edith.

Looking at her birth, Edith's mother's maiden name was Kerr

Yay so can we safely say all three Calvert girls are sisters ?
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Re: Three Elsender Brothers marry Three Calvert Sisters surely not ?
« Reply #19 on: Monday 04 December 17 18:05 GMT (UK) »
I can't find a birth for Dorothy in 1924  :-\

But she is in the same household as William Calvert and Eleanor Kerr/Calvert in 1939 (free search) and there is someone else in the household whose mother's maiden name was Kerr.

Also the free search shows up a Margaret Calvert born 1919. There is no Margaret Calvert born in that year, but there is a Margaret C. Kerr, mother's maiden name Kerr born in Newcastle upon Tyne in the 2nd quarter of 1919.
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Re: Three Elsender Brothers marry Three Calvert Sisters surely not ?
« Reply #20 on: Monday 04 December 17 22:51 GMT (UK) »
Sept qtr
1919 marriage
William Calvert
to
Eleanor Kerr

Louisa Maud
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Garner, Marylebone Paddington  Northolt Ilford
Garner, Devon
Garner New Zealand
Maddieson
Parkinson St Pancras,
Lethbridge Paddington Slough
Jenkins Marylebone Paddington
Mizon/Mison/Myson Paddington
Tindal Marylebone Paddington
Tocock, (name changed to Ellis) London
Southam Marylebone, Paddington
Bragg Lambeth 1800's
Edermaniger(Maniger) Essex Kent Canada (Toronto)
Coveney Kent Lambeth
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Re: Three Elsender Brothers marry Three Calvert Sisters surely not ?
« Reply #21 on: Tuesday 05 December 17 00:05 GMT (UK) »
Sept qtr
1919 marriage
William Calvert
to
Eleanor Kerr

Louisa Maud

Posted that on reply 12 but thanks Louisa 😘
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Re: Three Elsender Brothers marry Three Calvert Sisters surely not ?
« Reply #22 on: Tuesday 05 December 17 08:40 GMT (UK) »
Sorry, brain in a muddle I reckon

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Garner, Marylebone Paddington  Northolt Ilford
Garner, Devon
Garner New Zealand
Maddieson
Parkinson St Pancras,
Lethbridge Paddington Slough
Jenkins Marylebone Paddington
Mizon/Mison/Myson Paddington
Tindal Marylebone Paddington
Tocock, (name changed to Ellis) London
Southam Marylebone, Paddington
Bragg Lambeth 1800's
Edermaniger(Maniger) Essex Kent Canada (Toronto)
Coveney Kent Lambeth
Sondes

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Re: Three Elsender Brothers marry Three Calvert Sisters surely not ?
« Reply #23 on: Tuesday 05 December 17 08:52 GMT (UK) »
Just as a matter of interest

1921-1942
11 births in Newcastle
Calvert MMN Kerr

1946-1961
10 births Newcastle
Elsender MMN Calvert

Interesting one name studies

LM
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Garner, Marylebone Paddington  Northolt Ilford
Garner, Devon
Garner New Zealand
Maddieson
Parkinson St Pancras,
Lethbridge Paddington Slough
Jenkins Marylebone Paddington
Mizon/Mison/Myson Paddington
Tindal Marylebone Paddington
Tocock, (name changed to Ellis) London
Southam Marylebone, Paddington
Bragg Lambeth 1800's
Edermaniger(Maniger) Essex Kent Canada (Toronto)
Coveney Kent Lambeth
Sondes

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Re: Three Elsender Brothers marry Three Calvert Sisters surely not ?
« Reply #24 on: Tuesday 05 December 17 09:42 GMT (UK) »
Just as a matter of interest

1921-1942
11 births in Newcastle
Calvert MMN Kerr

1946-1961
10 births Newcastle
Elsender MMN Calvert

Interesting one name studies

LM

Yes the Elsender's were quite proficient in reproducing. My Wife's Dad had at least 9 borther's that I have found so far.
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