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Re: Three Elsender Brothers marry Three Calvert Sisters surely not ?
« Reply #9 on: Monday 04 December 17 14:58 GMT (UK) »
Ahhh right 1939 Register has Dorothy living with father William Calvert (b) 1899 and mother down as Eleanor Calvert (b) 1897.
Rest of the entries are closed
If Top Of The Hill post is correct and that is the parents DOB then that would make sense and they did marry younger woman
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Re: Three Elsender Brothers marry Three Calvert Sisters surely not ?
« Reply #10 on: Monday 04 December 17 15:08 GMT (UK) »
There are 2 marriages Elsender to Cook

William to Annie 1911 Newcastle


Thomas to Emma 1923 Newcastle

I assume these 3 lads were born to William and Annie going by their dates of birth , but I could be wrong

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Garner, Devon
Garner New Zealand
Maddieson
Parkinson St Pancras,
Lethbridge Paddington Slough
Jenkins Marylebone Paddington
Mizon/Mison/Myson Paddington
Tindal Marylebone Paddington
Tocock, (name changed to Ellis) London
Southam Marylebone, Paddington
Bragg Lambeth 1800's
Edermaniger(Maniger) Essex Kent Canada (Toronto)
Coveney Kent Lambeth
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Re: Three Elsender Brothers marry Three Calvert Sisters surely not ?
« Reply #11 on: Monday 04 December 17 15:10 GMT (UK) »
There are 2 marriages Elsender to Cook

William to Annie 1911 Newcastle


Thomas to Emma 1923 Newcastle

I assume these 3 lads were born to William and Annie going by their dates of birth , but I could be wrong

Louisa Maud

Yes to William and Annie
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Re: Three Elsender Brothers marry Three Calvert Sisters surely not ?
« Reply #12 on: Monday 04 December 17 15:10 GMT (UK) »
William Calvert marriage to Eleanor Kerr 1919 so that fits
No marriage to a Braithwaite though
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Re: Three Elsender Brothers marry Three Calvert Sisters surely not ?
« Reply #13 on: Monday 04 December 17 15:15 GMT (UK) »
So its looking like Mary and Eleanor sisters mmn Kerr but Dorothy some other side of the Calvert family me thinks.
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Re: Three Elsender Brothers marry Three Calvert Sisters surely not ?
« Reply #14 on: Monday 04 December 17 15:29 GMT (UK) »
According to deaths Dorothy Elsender was born 26/07/1924 and died 2012 Newcastle, I wonder if this is the right one

Bo nearer to finding out the connection

1974 in Newcastle electoral   register
David and Mary
Ronald and Dorothy are still alive in Newcastle upon Tyne

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Garner, Devon
Garner New Zealand
Maddieson
Parkinson St Pancras,
Lethbridge Paddington Slough
Jenkins Marylebone Paddington
Mizon/Mison/Myson Paddington
Tindal Marylebone Paddington
Tocock, (name changed to Ellis) London
Southam Marylebone, Paddington
Bragg Lambeth 1800's
Edermaniger(Maniger) Essex Kent Canada (Toronto)
Coveney Kent Lambeth
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Re: Three Elsender Brothers marry Three Calvert Sisters surely not ?
« Reply #15 on: Monday 04 December 17 15:31 GMT (UK) »
According to deaths Dorothy Elsender was born 26/07/1924 and died 2012 Newcastle, I wonder if this is the right one

Her obituary (found via Google) indicates she was the widow of Ronald. Looking at the births of her children, her maiden name was Calvert.
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Re: Three Elsender Brothers marry Three Calvert Sisters surely not ?
« Reply #16 on: Monday 04 December 17 16:36 GMT (UK) »
According to deaths Dorothy Elsender was born 26/07/1924 and died 2012 Newcastle, I wonder if this is the right one

Her obituary (found via Google) indicates she was the widow of Ronald. Looking at the births of her children, her maiden name was Calvert.

Aye so looks like a connection to Mary and Eleanor then Jen ?
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Re: Three Elsender Brothers marry Three Calvert Sisters surely not ?
« Reply #17 on: Monday 04 December 17 17:13 GMT (UK) »
According to deaths Dorothy Elsender was born 26/07/1924 and died 2012 Newcastle, I wonder if this is the right one

Using the free search to the 1939 shows Dorothy Calvert/Elsender was indeed born in July 1924.

The Dorothy who was born Newcastle, mother's maiden name Braithwaite was born 1925 (or at least that's when her birth was registered).

Again using the free search to the 1939 reveals that in the same household with Dorothy was a sister born 1929, called Edith.

Looking at her birth, Edith's mother's maiden name was Kerr
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