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Re: The 1895 marriage of Philip Henry Adams and Sarah Taylor?
« Reply #54 on: Thursday 14 December 17 05:48 GMT (UK) »
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Re: The 1895 marriage of Philip Henry Adams and Sarah Taylor?
« Reply #55 on: Thursday 14 December 17 15:57 GMT (UK) »
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Re: The 1895 marriage of Philip Henry Adams and Sarah Taylor?
« Reply #56 on: Thursday 14 December 17 16:25 GMT (UK) »
Hi you have posted yourself the relevant census returns for the parents of Sarah Taylor b 1873 with Father Samuel and brother Samuel, the parents married 8th June 1854 St Edmund's Dudley Samuel Taylor 19 to Mary Ann SOUTHALL 20 Grooms Father William Brides Father Joseph

Sarah Taylor June qtr 1873 Stourbridge v6c page 168 mmn SOUTHWELL

Samuel Taylor jnr marries a Lizzie Roberts Sept qtr 1889 Stourbridge 6c 208 Samuel uses OLDNAL/OLDNALL or Stourbridge as pob, the same address as the 1881 you posted ( Original) of family.
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Re: The 1895 marriage of Philip Henry Adams and Sarah Taylor?
« Reply #57 on: Thursday 15 November 18 15:42 GMT (UK) »
Hi you have posted yourself the relevant census returns for the parents of Sarah Taylor b 1873 with Father Samuel and brother Samuel, the parents married 8th June 1854 St Edmund's Dudley Samuel Taylor 19 to Mary Ann SOUTHALL 20 Grooms Father William Brides Father Joseph

Sarah Taylor June qtr 1873 Stourbridge v6c page 168 mmn SOUTHWELL

Samuel Taylor jnr marries a Lizzie Roberts Sept qtr 1889 Stourbridge 6c 208 Samuel uses OLDNAL/OLDNALL or Stourbridge as pob, the same address as the 1881 you posted ( Original) of family.
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Thank you for confirming. I have come across the 1951 census with Samuel's father William listed as coming from Chowbent Lane and the only Chowbent I can find via Google Maps is in Manchester. Is this correct?

Regarding Sarah Adams nee Taylor, as I cannot find her on the 1921 census, am assuming she has either moved away or has died? I have come across the below death records of a Sarah Taylor but the registration district is Bromsgrove?: -

Name:   Sarah Adams
Estimated Birth Year:   abt 1873
Registration Year:   1914
Registration Quarter:   Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at Death:   41
Registration district:   Bromsgrove
Parishes for this Registration District:   View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County:   Worcestershire
Volume:   6c
Page:   245

I'm now speculating that Sarah may have ended up at Barnsley Hall Hospital but I have no way of proving this as I don't have access to Volume: 6c and page 245?

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Re: The 1895 marriage of Philip Henry Adams and Sarah Taylor?
« Reply #58 on: Thursday 15 November 18 17:08 GMT (UK) »
You would need to apply for the death certificate from the qtr, year, volume and page.

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Re: The 1895 marriage of Philip Henry Adams and Sarah Taylor?
« Reply #59 on: Thursday 15 November 18 17:16 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Pauline but I'm reluctant to order and would only do it if I'm confident that it is her.

I think Barnsley Hall Hospital has been pulled down? Wondering if there's a way of accessing their hospital records?

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Re: The 1895 marriage of Philip Henry Adams and Sarah Taylor?
« Reply #60 on: Thursday 15 November 18 17:24 GMT (UK) »
Hi so you feel Sarah had Mental health problems, as that particular hosptital closed in 1996 and was a Psychiatric Hospital.
A bit if/buts/and maybes?
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Re: The 1895 marriage of Philip Henry Adams and Sarah Taylor?
« Reply #61 on: Thursday 15 November 18 17:39 GMT (UK) »
Hi so you feel Sarah had Mental health problems, as that particular hosptital closed in 1996 and was a Psychiatric Hospital.
A bit if/buts/and maybes?
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Hi,

Agree if/but/maybes.... I'm just speculating at this point as seeing on the 1911 census that Sarah appears to have had 3 children, 2 sons Arthur John and Philip Edwin and lost one child plus ended up as a Border to William Worton. She hasn't lived with her husband Philip Henry Adams for many years plus has moved from one place to another so am wondering that she may have suffered some kind of depression after the loss of her child? I can't find records for the deceased child, which doesn't help either...

My Dad was surprised when I showed the 1911 census to him as he knew nothing about the 3rd child.

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Re: The 1895 marriage of Philip Henry Adams and Sarah Taylor?
« Reply #62 on: Thursday 15 November 18 17:53 GMT (UK) »
 :) Hi again, have only had a cursory glance, but have you purchased any Birth/Marriage & Death certificates or relied on records available online?
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