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WW2 Merchant Seamans Record help please.
« on: Tuesday 05 December 17 12:01 GMT (UK) »
Am trying to Trace any information on my deceased (d.03/01/1993) Father in Law's War Record
All that we know is that he was at Dunkirk in May 1940 presume in The Merchant Navy
We have a Photo of him in Merchant Navy Uniform when he married at St.Nicholas Church Ruins  Liverpool on 9th August 1941 and talked of doing the Artic Convoy Runs to Russia.
Yet in 1942 he was in the Army in North Allerton, Yorks when his daughter was born there.
He was also on the D- day Landings on his birthday aged 24 (b. 06/06/1920)
Anyone have any ideas where to start to trace his Military Life ?
CHAPMAN ROBINSON McKAY O'MALLEY

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Re: WW2 Merchant Seamans Record help please.
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 05 December 17 12:05 GMT (UK) »
If he was in the Army in WW2 his records will still be with the MOD
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Re: WW2 Merchant Seamans Record help please.
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 05 December 17 19:26 GMT (UK) »
Are you in a positon to give us his name and place of birth. North Russian convoys commenced on 29/Sept/1941, so there is a possibilty he may have been involved before joining the Army.
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Re: WW2 Merchant Seamans Record help please.
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 14 February 18 11:53 GMT (UK) »
Sorry Seaweed missed your post till now.   
He was Dennis Patrick Mahoney Born in Liverpool 6th June 1920
He Married neighbour Kathleen Kirkham 9th August 1941 in the bombed ruins of St Nicolas Church, Liverpool
She had just lost on 3rd May 1941
Her Mother and Father and SEVEN Brothers and Sisters in that May Blitz
Photo was taken on the day of Marriage. 
I've seen some posts people have got Merchant Seaman's Card with Photo on.
How do you find these ? or any info on his WW2 records .
CHAPMAN ROBINSON McKAY O'MALLEY

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Re: WW2 Merchant Seamans Record help please.
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 14 February 18 12:40 GMT (UK) »
Fortunately his Seaman's "Pouch" seems to have survived.
 These records relate to individual seamen filed together in a pouch. These documents may include application forms (most with a photograph of the seaman), certificates, identity cards, cessation documents and notifications of death.
 Available from here. http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C8171169
What you really need is his Form CRS10. This will tell you the vessels he served on from early 1941 together with dates and places of engagement and discharge.
If you can get hold of this you can then examine individual ships Logbooks and Crew Agreements to gain a fuller picture of his Merchant Navy career.
If anywhere it should be here. http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C10989390
These records are kept in blocks of 60 names catalogued alphabetically.
You would be best advised to Visit Kew yourself or appoint a researcher.
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Re: WW2 Merchant Seamans Record help please.
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 14 February 18 13:03 GMT (UK) »
Cheers Seaweed, Great Find, I'm on it. Alamo
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« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 14 February 18 14:02 GMT (UK) »
If there are no records in BT382/1165, there is an outside chance there may be something here.
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C10990895
These records, by and large, cover service from 1946-1972 but they have been known to turn up trumps.
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