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VIVIAN Family
« on: Wednesday 06 December 17 03:29 GMT (UK) »
looking for the parents of Ivan Henry Vivian of dunedin otago died 19/10/1994

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Re: VIVIAN Family
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 06 December 17 04:53 GMT (UK) »
His birth [a late registration].....

1976/134424   Vivian   Ivan Henry    Bertha   Thomas

Date of birth:25.10.1916; this ties in with that shown at his death registration.

1994/53900   Vivian   Ivan Henry   25 October 1916


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HAMMOND, Cainham/Caynham, Shropshire, U.K. Otago-NZ.
GALBRAITH, Ireland, Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Kensington-London, U.K.
GRANT, Sct., Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Vancouver, Canada.
GLASS, Aberdeenshire, Otago-NZ.
CAIRNEY/CARNEY/KEARNEY/Ireland, Airdrie, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
O'BRIEN Mary Ann, Limerick, Otago-NZ.
NICOL(L) James, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
SCOTT Thomas, Shetland, Otago-NZ.
MCHARDY/MCHARDIE Euphemia, Scotland, Otago-NZ.

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Re: VIVIAN Family
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 06 December 17 05:55 GMT (UK) »
Marriage not found in New Zealand for Bertha & Thomas.

But the following:

1900/5644    Bertha   Burrows   Stephen   Vivian

Marriage notice:

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/ESD19010115.2.17?query=bertha%20vivian

Children found for a Bertha Vivian......

1907/22935   Vivian   Oliver Henry   Bertha   Stephen   -   

1976/134424   Vivian   Ivan Henry   Bertha   Thomas   -   

1914/12266   Vivian   Constance Rolmer   Bertha   Stephen   -   

1902/15291   Vivian   Gladys Mary   Bertha   Stephen   -   

1910/4927   Vivian   Cyril Herbert   Bertha   Stephen   -   

1906/7704   Vivian   NR   Bertha   Stephen      

Both Bertha & Stephen are buried in Dunedin.

http://www.dunedin.govt.nz/facilities/cemeteries/cemeteries_search?recordid=20281&type=Burial

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HAMMOND, Cainham/Caynham, Shropshire, U.K. Otago-NZ.
GALBRAITH, Ireland, Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Kensington-London, U.K.
GRANT, Sct., Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Vancouver, Canada.
GLASS, Aberdeenshire, Otago-NZ.
CAIRNEY/CARNEY/KEARNEY/Ireland, Airdrie, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
O'BRIEN Mary Ann, Limerick, Otago-NZ.
NICOL(L) James, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
SCOTT Thomas, Shetland, Otago-NZ.
MCHARDY/MCHARDIE Euphemia, Scotland, Otago-NZ.

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Re: VIVIAN Family
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 06 December 17 09:36 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Minniehaha i did find that and i questioned someone about whether the fathers name was wrong on that one but they said they couldn't of made that big of a mistake

Marriage not found in New Zealand for Bertha & Thomas.

But the following:

1900/5644    Bertha   Burrows   Stephen   Vivian

Marriage notice:

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/ESD19010115.2.17?query=Bertha%20Vivian

Children found for a Bertha Vivian......

1907/22935   Vivian   Oliver Henry   Bertha   Stephen   -   

1976/134424   Vivian   Ivan Henry   Bertha   Thomas   -   

1914/12266   Vivian   Constance Rolmer   Bertha   Stephen   -   

1902/15291   Vivian   Gladys Mary   Bertha   Stephen   -   

1910/4927   Vivian   Cyril Herbert   Bertha   Stephen   -   

1906/7704   Vivian   NR   Bertha   Stephen      

Both Bertha & Stephen are buried in Dunedin.

http://www.dunedin.govt.nz/facilities/cemeteries/cemeteries_search?recordid=20281&type=Burial

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Re: VIVIAN Family
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 06 December 17 17:34 GMT (UK) »
Earlier thread ...
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=783701.0


Moderator can these threads be merged please ?

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Re: VIVIAN Family
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 06 December 17 19:23 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Minniehaha i did find that and i questioned someone about whether the fathers name was wrong on that one but they said they couldn't of made that big of a mistake


You could try phoning or emailing BDM's and ask if they could check the original register

https://www.bdmhistoricalrecords.dia.govt.nz/contactus

It may be a transcription error

Cheers Janette

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Re: VIVIAN Family
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 07 December 17 00:20 GMT (UK) »
Found these snippets concerning an Ivan Vivian......

[1923]

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/CHP19230220.2.7?query=ivan%20vivian

[1928]

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/CHP19280428.2.8?query=ivan%20vivian

[1941]

Mention of Thomas Errol Vivian; his father, Mr. I. H. Vivian** of Dunedin.

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/NZH19410617.2.105?query=i.%20h.%20vivian

And a little about the WW2 record of Thomas Errol Vivian.

http://www.aucklandmuseum.com/war-memorial/online-cenotaph/record/C142579?n=thomas%20vivian&ordinal=3&from=%2Fwar-memorial%2Fonline-cenotaph%2Fsearch

His death:

1975/39046   Vivian   Thomas Errol   14 April 1910

His birth:** But father is NOT I. H. Vivian   ???

1910/18205   Vivian   Thomas Errol   Jessie   Thomas Henry


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HAMMOND, Cainham/Caynham, Shropshire, U.K. Otago-NZ.
GALBRAITH, Ireland, Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Kensington-London, U.K.
GRANT, Sct., Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Vancouver, Canada.
GLASS, Aberdeenshire, Otago-NZ.
CAIRNEY/CARNEY/KEARNEY/Ireland, Airdrie, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
O'BRIEN Mary Ann, Limerick, Otago-NZ.
NICOL(L) James, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
SCOTT Thomas, Shetland, Otago-NZ.
MCHARDY/MCHARDIE Euphemia, Scotland, Otago-NZ.

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Re: VIVIAN Family
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 07 December 17 22:11 GMT (UK) »
Found these snippets concerning an Ivan Vivian......

[1923]

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/CHP19230220.2.7?query=ivan%20vivian

[1928]

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/CHP19280428.2.8?query=ivan%20vivian

Minniehaha.

The Ivan VIVIAN mentioned in the above articles, is Ivan Douglas VIVIAN (s/o Ruby T. and Jacob B. VIVIAN of Christchurch.)

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Re: VIVIAN Family
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 28 December 17 23:29 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Minniehaha i did find that and i questioned someone about whether the fathers name was wrong on that one but they said they couldn't of made that big of a mistake


You could try phoning or emailing BDM's and ask if they could check the original register

https://www.bdmhistoricalrecords.dia.govt.nz/contactus

It may be a transcription error

Cheers Janette

ceecee93 ... had meant to add this to your thread, earlier.

Before spending $$$  on  B D M records, you should heed the advice given above (i.e.  ask NZ BDM to check original register.)

And I also want to let you know that from a resource I have (which is not available online), I can tell you that the listing (in the index) for the marriage record of Elizabeth Emma ASHWELL and  Ivan Henry VIVIAN, shows that the groom also went by the name of
Ivan Henry GILCHRIST.   

I have found no further information for this man under the name of "GILCHRIST"  though I imagine that the marriage record of the year 1939, may carry an explanation ?   However, if you wish to obtain a copy of this marriage record (-  and you should select the printout version) -  the purchase process is somewhat different as it comes under "non-historical" BDM records.  Please see the notes for "Non-historical" at NZ BDM link given above ... or ask for guidance from BDM staff.

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