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Travel in Scotland during the 1700's COMPLETED
« on: Wednesday 06 December 17 17:14 GMT (UK) »
I have a couple questions about travel in the 1700's in Scotland. First, are there any known maps for roads between Edinburgh and Dumfries? Second, Would it have been common to travel from Edinburgh to Dumfries? If so what would some of the reasons be? Could it have been due to the border wars? I appreciate your thoughts and any information you can provide to back your thoughts.

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Re: Travel in Scotland during the 1700's
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 06 December 17 17:34 GMT (UK) »
http://maps.nls.uk/view/102190072
This somewhat old map seems to show a road from Edinburgh heading down towards Dumfries

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Re: Travel in Scotland during the 1700's
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 06 December 17 17:44 GMT (UK) »
I think it depended on a person's own circumstances.  For instance, if you discovered coal on your land you'd sell the rights to dig out the coal to a mining specialist. Likewise, if you were in a family business and wanted to branch out on your own you would look further afield for a new market.

Attached is a page from a Google book, which mentions Dumfries and Edinburgh in a description of how difficult it was to travel:-
Aberdeen: Findlay-Shirras,McCarthy
MidLothian: Mason,Telford,Darling,Cruikshanks,Bennett,Sime, Bell
Lanarks:Crum, Brown, MacKenzie,Cameron, Glen, Millar
Ross, Urray:Mackenzie
Moray: Findlay; Marshall/Marischell
Perthshire: Brown Ferguson
Wales: McCarthy, Thomas
England: Almond, Askin, Dodson, Harrison, Maw, McCarthy, Munford, Pye, Shearing, Smith, Smythe, Speight, Strike, Wallis/Wallace, Ward, Wells
Germany: Flamme,Ehlers, Bielstein, Germer, Mohlm, Reupke

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Re: Travel in Scotland during the 1700's
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 06 December 17 19:07 GMT (UK) »
http://maps.nls.uk/view/102190072
This somewhat old map seems to show a road from Edinburgh heading down towards Dumfries

Mike

Thank you for this map. Now are the different colored areas the roads?
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Re: Travel in Scotland during the 1700's
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 06 December 17 19:11 GMT (UK) »
I think it depended on a person's own circumstances.  For instance, if you discovered coal on your land you'd sell the rights to dig out the coal to a mining specialist. Likewise, if you were in a family business and wanted to branch out on your own you would look further afield for a new market.

Attached is a page from a Google book, which mentions Dumfries and Edinburgh in a description of how difficult it was to travel:-

Thank you this helps.
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Re: Travel in Scotland during the 1700's
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 06 December 17 19:21 GMT (UK) »
http://maps.nls.uk/view/102190072
This somewhat old map seems to show a road from Edinburgh heading down towards Dumfries

Mike

Any idea of when this map was made?
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Re: Travel in Scotland during the 1700's
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 06 December 17 20:10 GMT (UK) »
1670, I think. The roads are shewn as pairs of small dotted lines, there are not many :)

The same site has many other maps but Rena’s attachment is a good indicator of what travel was like
But a horse can cope without a road surface, mud is the enemy.

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Re: Travel in Scotland during the 1700's
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 06 December 17 20:59 GMT (UK) »
1670, I think. The roads are shewn as pairs of small dotted lines, there are not many :)

The same site has many other maps but Rena’s attachment is a good indicator of what travel was like
But a horse can cope without a road surface, mud is the enemy.

Mike


Again thank you this helps.
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Re: Travel in Scotland during the 1700's
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 06 December 17 22:48 GMT (UK) »
This website shows several 1776 road maps:
http://maps.nls.uk/atlas/taylor-skinner/index.html

Below is a 1776 map of the road from Edinburgh to Moffat and Dumfries via Peebles.

Actually it's three maps and it can be seen by the compass on each of the pages that "North" is at variance with the other two.

http://maps.nls.uk/view/74400342

Aberdeen: Findlay-Shirras,McCarthy
MidLothian: Mason,Telford,Darling,Cruikshanks,Bennett,Sime, Bell
Lanarks:Crum, Brown, MacKenzie,Cameron, Glen, Millar
Ross, Urray:Mackenzie
Moray: Findlay; Marshall/Marischell
Perthshire: Brown Ferguson
Wales: McCarthy, Thomas
England: Almond, Askin, Dodson, Harrison, Maw, McCarthy, Munford, Pye, Shearing, Smith, Smythe, Speight, Strike, Wallis/Wallace, Ward, Wells
Germany: Flamme,Ehlers, Bielstein, Germer, Mohlm, Reupke