MARGRIE , Edmund marriage

[Norfg]

I am researching Edmund Margrie, who was a photographer in Exmouth, Devon.
He was born March 3 1876.  Died March 1902 , aged 25.  I have found his own family but I am
having a problem finding his MARRIAGE.
He married in 1901.  I believe to Ellen Veal, or  Martha Ellen Veal. But this is proving very difficult to trace.  The date of the marriage is registered, but only in his name. No mention of his wife's details.
Edmund became ill early in 1902 and died very suddenly in 1902.  Buried at Littleham 27.3.1902.
I cannot find any information on his wife, either her surname before she was married, or after his death. As they were married for such a very short time, I am wondering if she reverted to her maiden name of Veal, or as is likely, that she married again.

I would greatly appreciate any information about her.

[nanny jan]

Hi,

FreeBMD has the marriage registration:

Edmund George Margrie    JunQ 1901   St Thomas 5b   167

By clicking on the page number (167) the bride is shown as Ellen Margaret Veals.

[wrjones]

Given as Edmund George Margrie his marriage is given as to an Ellen Margaret "Veals" in the St Thomas District of Deon in the June Quarter of 1901.Volume 5b,page 167.

Regards
William Russell Jones.

[nanny jan]

A likely birth registration for Ellen:

Ellen Margaret Veals   DecQ  1872   St. Thomas  5b  49


Possible death:

Ellen M Margrie  MarQ 1959  Willesden   5f   267

[wrjones]

It looks like she was living in Birkenhead Cheshire in 1891 with parents Henry and Emily J Veals.

Regards
William Russell Jones.

[cath151]

Looks like they possibly had a child Ethel E Margrie in 1902, Ellen and Ethel are together in 1939,
Ethel Emma Margrie mmn Veals St Thomas AMJ 1902

Cathy

[Daisypetal]

Hi,

Ellen is named in his entry in the Probate Calendar,


MARGRIE Edmund George of 36 Salisbury Rd Exmouth Devonshire photographer died 24 March 1902 Probate Exeter 20 May 1902 to Ellen Margaret MARGRIE widow Effects £157 14s 6d


Regards,
Daisy

[Daisypetal]

Sorry I forgot to mention that I found the Probate entry at Ancestry but you could get a copy of his will here, under the "Wills and Probate 1858 – 1996" index,

https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/#wills



This looks like Ellen in 1938,

UK, City and County Directories 1938
10 Parkhill rd Birkenhead
Mrs Ellen M MARGRIE


I think this is their daughter Ethel's marriage, as Ethel has the name MARGRIE crossed out and replaced with DAVIES in 1939.

Ethel E MARGRIE    Sep Q 1942    Birkenhead    8a  1507
James DAVIES


The family seem to have moved to Wembley by 1942 as I can find them in London, England, Electoral Registers.

1948 and 1949 (Margaret ROBBINS isn't there in 1949)
11 Drayton Waye, Wembley
Ethel E DAVIES
James DAVIES
Ellen M MARGRIE
Margaret P M ROBBINS


1950 She is also at her brother and sister -in-law's house.
Transcribed as 62 Sherwood Road, Harrow but on the image it is 62 Roxeth Green Ave,
Ellen M MARGRIE
Dorothy VEALS
Stanley G R VEALS


1951 and 1952 still at 62 Roxteth Ave, Harrow with Stanley and Dorothy VEALS.


1954 and 1955
33 Draycott Avenue. Wembley
Aubrey R W ATKINSON
Valerie A ATKINSON
Ellen M MAGRIE


1956
64 Draycott Avenue, Wembley
Mabel G MACHIN
Ellen M MAGRIE
Nora E RIDGEWELL


1957,  1958 (Nora is now Leonora E),  1959 still Leonora E, and Cecil is not there.
64 Draycott Avenue, Wembley
Cecil F MACHIN
Mabel G MACHIN
Ellen M MAGRIE
Nora E RIDGEWELL


Then I can't see her anymore.

I think the death found by nanny jan is right as Wembley was in Willesden Registration District.


Daisy

[Margie-Day]

Hi there.

We've just come across this forum discussion on Google. Edmund George was my grandfather. As covered below, he married Ellen Margaret Veals in 1901 at the Wesleyan Chapel in Exmouth. Sadly Edmund got pneumonia and died on 26th March (having a weakened heart already from previously having rheumatic fever), just 11 days before my mother, his daughter, Ethel Emma Margie was born on 6th April.

We've been doing a lot of research on the family tree recently. We'd be interested to know if NorfG is a family member too - maybe a grandson of William, Emma or Thomas Margie. Please do get in touch.