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Need help to id this Spanish Coat of Arms
« on: Thursday 07 December 17 15:14 GMT (UK) »
Dear Guys,

I found this Coat of Arm in Hungary, but in the Hungarian's chronicles wrote it down this is an aragonian noble family coat of arm who came to Hungary in est. 1195 with Aragonian princess Constantine. Additional information : The noble family won this coat when one of the family member fight against Muslims in Majorca. Who can help me to identify the Spanish family? :)

Thanks a lot !

PS Sorry for my English.... 

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Re: Need help to id this Spanish Coat of Arms
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 07 December 17 16:12 GMT (UK) »
Hello and Welcome  :)

There's more about it here but not sure if the family are identified:

http://www.nemzetijelkepek.hu/onkormanyzat-bajot_en.shtml


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Re: Need help to id this Spanish Coat of Arms
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 07 December 17 22:30 GMT (UK) »
Well done Gadget!  ;D

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Re: Need help to id this Spanish Coat of Arms
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 07 December 17 22:41 GMT (UK) »
Dear Guys, I know more from hungarian Nagymartoni or Bajoti family. I'd like to find the aragonian roots :) Red shield with black eagle coat come with family from spain....

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Re: Need help to id this Spanish Coat of Arms
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 07 December 17 22:43 GMT (UK) »
Nice work, Gadget! ;D

Wikipedia articles here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baj%C3%B3t
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constance_of_Aragon

The arms are: a red shield with a white Eagle; a Bishop's Mitre and an arrow-head in the upper corners.
The articles above state that the arms originally had crosses in these corners?
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Re: Need help to id this Spanish Coat of Arms
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 07 December 17 22:55 GMT (UK) »
Constance's father was Alfonzo II of Aragon.
The Arms of Aragon consist of 4 red bars on a gold background.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coat_of_arms_of_the_Crown_of_Aragon
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Re: Need help to id this Spanish Coat of Arms
« Reply #6 on: Friday 08 December 17 07:32 GMT (UK) »
More information : in est. 1190 King Emerich meet with II. Alfonso King and engage his daughter Constance. Wedding est. 1195. Constance arrived to hungary with her garrison. They have some Aragonian artist, nobles , knights and priest who choose Hungary for new home. Princess consort who named Tota arrived with Constance. Tota was a real beauty. Her brothers Simon and Bertold follow her after their father died in Spain . Hungarian source said he killed by Magnus. This source said their coat of arms gifted by II.Alfonso after the reconquest Majorca. So I'd like to find wich aragonian noble family settled to hungary in between 1190-1210. This family after they choose a new home was a great member of hungarian history, many great noble houses come from this family....

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« Reply #7 on: Friday 08 December 17 08:19 GMT (UK) »
Constance father, Alfonso II, died in 1196.
Her brother, Peter II the new King, arranged her marriage which took place in 1198.

Tota was a Maid of Honour to Constance.
She had 2 brothers: Simon and Mihály.

Simon was first called Simon "Olasz" Bajoti (after the village of Bajot), and later Simon Nagymartoni (after the town of Nagymarton).

I can find no details of his, and Tota's, parents.

There may be a mention in the "Llibre del Repartiment (Majorca)", regarding the land distribution after the conquest of Majorca.
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Re: Need help to id this Spanish Coat of Arms
« Reply #8 on: Friday 08 December 17 08:54 GMT (UK) »
From the link I gave earlier:

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. The Spanish princess was escorted to Hungary by an extremely beautiful woman, called Tóta, who later became the wife of Prince Benedict, the voivod of Transylvania. It was in a document of 1202 where King Imre gave his permission to Benedict to bestow the settlement of Bajót on Tóta, as a wedding gift. This document was the first written mention of the settlement’s name and it appeared there as Boitth. The document is closed with a golden seal and today it is kept in the State Archives of the City of Vienna. In 1221 King Endre II returned the property to Tóta, which had formerly been taken away from her when her husband, Benedict had been exiled. Following Tóta’s death her Spanish brother, Bailiff Simon obtained the property. Simon’s family later adopted the name Nagymartoni, since in addition to Bajót they also owned the settlement of Nagymarton in Burgenland, Austria, by its present –day name Mattersbürg. The members of the Nagymartoni family began to call themselves Fraknói from the mid-14th century onward. Their dynasty died out with Pál IV in 1438.Their coat-of-arms originally was a simple shield tinctured gules. As charges it bore two crosses in the upper chief and an eagle abaisé in the middle. The bird is turning to the sinister and looking at the cross borne on the dexter side of the shield. These charges were likely to have been bestowed on Simon as well as his brother Mihály by the Spanish king. Their figures might appear as the characters of Mikhal and Simon of Boioth in József Katona’s tragedy entitled Bánk Bán. Before Simon and Mihály moved to Hungary they had defeated the sultan of Tunis and had occupied the islands of Mallorca and Manorca for the Spanish king.

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