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Re: WW1 record guidance
« Reply #45 on: Thursday 21 December 17 15:07 GMT (UK) »
Yes, saw the same dilemma although it doesn't say that Capt Porteous was alive at the time so I'd go for the 8th-14th, probably early in the period given the paper was published on the 14th.  The brigade diary (concealed in the 27 Div list by Ancestry) calls the 8th - 14th May difficult days.

My reckoning is that it is the wording in the newspaper that is confusing.

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Re: WW1 record guidance
« Reply #46 on: Thursday 21 December 17 15:33 GMT (UK) »
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Was the action in 1915 or 1918?
As far as I'm aware it was Sept. 28 1918. he won his MM.
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
Kings of Wessex & Scotland
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Re: WW1 record guidance
« Reply #47 on: Thursday 21 December 17 16:01 GMT (UK) »
OK I think the action that Capt. Porteous won he DCM was March. 16 as this is when there was a mine explosion.
(forget previous post... wrong Greer).
Put me down for a ticket. I need r & r.
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
Kings of Wessex & Scotland
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www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/

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Re: WW1 record guidance
« Reply #48 on: Thursday 21 December 17 16:38 GMT (UK) »

How confident are you that the other chap is a brother?


Hello Jim,

Thanks for your responses. Great work from you and MaxD.

The photo was taken in the Greers home town of Wishaw, so I'm quite confident. I also think the unknown soldier looks quite like Abraham in the first photo.
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Re: WW1 record guidance
« Reply #49 on: Thursday 21 December 17 16:51 GMT (UK) »
Abraham was HLI & I would say it was him in pic. 1 but not pic. 2.
Back to John. This is the mound that was mined.
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
Kings of Wessex & Scotland
Census information is Crown copyright,from
www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/

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Re: WW1 record guidance
« Reply #50 on: Thursday 21 December 17 17:07 GMT (UK) »
managed to id the collar dogs=Pioneers.
I can't recall at present which one of the brothers was in a Pioneer Batt.
Abraham was in the 16/HLI a Pioneer Batt. but I can't believe it's him seated.
The other lad is also HLI.

Let's start again.
These are the Pioneer Batts. of the Regt's. we have:
8/R.Scots. (William) He might be wearing the HLI Tam as that was his Regt. He was only attached to the 8/R.Scots.
9/Gordons.
16/HLI (Abraham)
6/A & SH.
So William seated wearing the pre economy tunic & with the Pioneer collar dogs & Abraham wearing the economy tunic(1916 on) & no collar dogs as I believe they were discontinued.
So pic. 1 all correct.
Pic. 2 William wearing the Tam of the R.Scots & someone else.
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
Kings of Wessex & Scotland
Census information is Crown copyright,from
www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/