Author Topic: John Graham married Fanny Nabb July 17 1899 in Bury  (Read 622 times)

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John Graham married Fanny Nabb July 17 1899 in Bury
« on: Friday 08 December 17 22:07 GMT (UK) »
Hi guys
Hope I can get some help on this one
I have been able to find out a bit about Fanny Nabbs ancestry but trying to track down a clue from the marriage of the two named in the subject..
John Graham was born in Renfrewshire, Scotland abt 1866 and wondering if the marriage record in 1899 may reveal the names of johns parents which may open the door up on Johns history ?

Greatly appreciate anyone's time and help

Thanks
Scott Morland
New Zealand

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Re: John Graham married Fanny Nabb July 17 1899 in Bury
« Reply #1 on: Friday 08 December 17 22:16 GMT (UK) »
The marriage was "Registry Office or Registrar attended", so possibly Non-Conformist or R.C. It's not on Lancashire Online Parish Clerks website.

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Re: John Graham married Fanny Nabb July 17 1899 in Bury
« Reply #2 on: Friday 08 December 17 23:55 GMT (UK) »
English marriage certificates only show the name and occupation of the father. The witnesses might be related to the bride or groom but are not identified as such.

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Re: John Graham married Fanny Nabb July 17 1899 in Bury
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 09 December 17 00:08 GMT (UK) »
Is this the couple in 1901? If so I believe that there was often a naming pattern used in Scotland which may help. Someone else may know how it worked.

ED: 8; Page: 29; Line: 15;
15 Moorpark Ter, Renfrew, Renfrewshire


John Graham   35   Machinist (boilermakers)        Glasgow, Lanarkshire
Fanny Graham   29                                               England
Percy Graham   8 Mos                                          Renfrew, Renfrewshire



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Re: John Graham married Fanny Nabb July 17 1899 in Bury
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 09 December 17 00:19 GMT (UK) »
Fanny is with her sister and brother-in-law in the 1891 census.
John Thomas Duckworth married Jane Alice Nabb June 1/4 1884 Registration district Bury vol 8c page 707.
1891 RG12 Piece 3138 Folio 64 Page 10
John T Duckworth 30 spindle maker
Jane A Duckworth 29 green grocer
Ernest Duckworth 6
Fanny Nabb 19 shop assistant (green grocer crossed out)
All born Bury

Sorry it is John you are looking for.  I need spec savers :)

Do you have John's date of death because if in Scotland his death cert will give his parent's names.

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Re: John Graham married Fanny Nabb July 17 1899 in Bury
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 09 December 17 00:29 GMT (UK) »
Similar thread here to avoid duplication

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=783862.0
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Re: John Graham married Fanny Nabb July 17 1899 in Bury
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 09 December 17 04:05 GMT (UK) »
Is this the couple in 1901? If so I believe that there was often a naming pattern used in Scotland which may help. Someone else may know how it worked.

ED: 8; Page: 29; Line: 15;
15 Moorpark Ter, Renfrew, Renfrewshire


John Graham   35   Machinist (boilermakers)        Glasgow, Lanarkshire
Fanny Graham   29                                               England
Percy Graham   8 Mos                                          Renfrew, Renfrewshire

Percy seemed to have been a popular name late 19th/ early 20th century, so may not have been a family name. As Fanny was English they may not have followed a traditional naming pattern.

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Re: John Graham married Fanny Nabb July 17 1899 in Bury
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 09 December 17 07:09 GMT (UK) »
Yes that is them ... 2 other kids arrived over the next few years after this .. Agnes them Margaret .. all three siblings ended up in Canada

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Re: John Graham married Fanny Nabb July 17 1899 in Bury
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 09 December 17 07:14 GMT (UK) »
Is this the couple in 1901? If so I believe that there was often a naming pattern used in Scotland which may help. Someone else may know how it worked.
First daughter after maternal grandmother.
Second daughter after paternal grandmother.
Third daughter after mother.
First son after paternal grandfather.
Second son after maternal grandfather.
Third son after father.
Subsequent children after great-grandparents, aunts, uncles, cousins, minister, doctor, landowner, schoolmaster, employer or their wives. I have seen assertions that there is a predictable order but have never actually found an example of it.
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