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Smoothy family - Tasmania to Victoria
« on: Saturday 09 December 17 08:36 GMT (UK) »
I wonder if anyone is able to help me. I have an interesting close (approximately 3-4th cousin) DNA match on myheritage who has a 'match in common' with my grandmother's cousin. This person is not a match on ancestry.com. The last name of the match is Matson. A couple of days ago I got a DNA match with a person on ancestry who also had a common match with the Matson line.
My grandmother and her cousin's maternal grandmother is a big mystery as she was fostered in Geelong and there are no records. She was born around 1870.
Looking at the Matson trees, there appears to be only one link to Australia, through the 'Smoothy' line. My match's ancestor was Edward W Smoothy, born 1840, in Hobart. Parents were John Smoothy and Ann Miskelly.
Edward Smoothy and his wife left Victoria for the South Island around 1866 and is unlikely to be a parent of my great-great grandmother. I found on familysearch a few more Smoothys leaving Victoria for NZ in the late 1860s early 1870s.
 According to a shipping record from 1852 when the Smoothy family in question left Tasmania for Melbourne, they had several children - John jnr, Edward William, Mary, Walter and Andrew.
 I may be completely wrong, but I suspect one of the children to be a parent of my great-great grandmother as they are the right age and in more-or-less the right place. I am having a really hard time finding any trace of them after they moved to Victoria, and would really appreciate any help you could give in tracking them down.

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Re: Smoothy family - Tasmania to Victoria
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 09 December 17 13:51 GMT (UK) »
I am having difficulty understanding who you are actually looking for.

I don’t know if you have checked VIC BDM.

An Andrew who was born in Tassie died 1865 aged 18. His folks are shown as Andrew and Ann.

Edward William married Ann Spellecy in 1863

There’s a Walter Smoothy charged with horse stealing in 1870 in VIC, page 4 1st column:

http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article189333672

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Re: Smoothy family - Tasmania to Victoria
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 09 December 17 17:35 GMT (UK) »
Thank you Jamjar. Maybe someone mis-transcribed Andrew's father - should be John. About the right age though. Can't find Walter after the horse stealing and Mary just vanishes. Edward ended up here in NZ, but I don't suspect him to be the father of gg grandmother as he was already in NZ by the time she was born. Older brother John also seems to just vanish. Perhaps the mother married again and they took on her new last name?

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Re: Smoothy family - Tasmania to Victoria
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 09 December 17 21:24 GMT (UK) »
Hi,

To give some indicator of the ages of the SMOOTHY family members the following is the shipping info from Hobart Town to Melbourne in 1852.

Hobart Town 31st March 1852 the 140 Ton "Yarra" for Melbourne.

Cabin
Jno SMOOTHY, 60, shepherd, born in England.
Mrs Ann SMOOTHY, 40, born in Ireland.
Jno SMOOTHY jnr, 15, born in Tasmania.
William SMOOTHY, 13, ditto
Mary SMOOTHY, 10, ditto.
Walter SMOOTHY, 8, ditto.
Andrew SMOOTHY, 5, ditto.

Source, http://search.archives.tas.gov.au/default.aspx?search=1

Gerry


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Re: Smoothy family - Tasmania to Victoria
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 09 December 17 21:26 GMT (UK) »
Thank you for the ages. William is my match's grandfather, Edward William.


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Re: Smoothy family - Tasmania to Victoria
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 09 December 17 21:45 GMT (UK) »

I see an Edward SMOOTHY in the Victorian Gazette, 12th March 1864 being able to pay for and collect Title Deeds for land in the Bellaura Parish.

There is also a death registration (P 412 V319) at Parkside in South Australia of a William SMOOTHY, of Morphet Vale born about 1846 who died on 16th August 1906.

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Re: Smoothy family - Tasmania to Victoria
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 09 December 17 22:52 GMT (UK) »
The tree which I match with has Edward William Smoothy dying in 1915 in New Zealand. it seems an uncommon name - so frustrating that records seem hard to come by!

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Re: Smoothy family - Tasmania to Victoria
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 09 December 17 23:01 GMT (UK) »
I am having difficulty understanding who you are actually looking for.

Any of the Smoothy children (except Edward William) after 1852.

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Re: Smoothy family - Tasmania to Victoria
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 10 December 17 00:44 GMT (UK) »
Regarding Mary.
Had you considered this marriage?

SMOOTHY, Mary Anne Jane
BONYTHAN, William
1863/1434

This is a news item about his early death from tetanus.
They lived in the Ararat region (like Walter as noted in the horse stealing item)
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/219306682

Did you need the births to this couple?

Walter SMOOTHY appears on the Electoral Roll in NZ in 1875/6

At Wyndham. Qualified by freehold. Section 16, block 3, Wyndham.

Sue


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