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Re: covenanters imprisoned on bass rock
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 09 December 17 15:44 GMT (UK) »
https://books.google.co.vi/books?id=04lbAAAAMAAJ&printsec=frontcover&source=gbs_atb#v=onepage&q=learmont&f=false

9 hits for "learmont (no "h") - not all Joseph.

It includes a description of the battle (page 181)
S. Wales, Somerset, Devon - Oxenham

Aberavon - Hopkin/s, Jenkins, Thomas
St. Brides/Wick - Jenkins
Llanblethian -  Price
Abergwynfi -  Han(d)ford
Pontardawe -  Lewis.

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Re: covenanters imprisoned on bass rock
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 09 December 17 20:57 GMT (UK) »
Once again thanks to everyone - It'll keep me out of mischief while the weather stops me working on the allotment. Hanes - I hope the footie went your way  ;)
US - Paton

Scotland - Paton, MacKenzie, Morrison, Urquhart, Bryce, Lindsay, Izett, Ferrier, Crawfurd, Strath,
England - Williams, Jones, Whitnall, Abbott, Rayner, Rowden, Hawker, Northcote, Seaman

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Re: covenanters imprisoned on bass rock
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 10 December 17 11:34 GMT (UK) »
According to the book "Scottish Covenanter Stories" by Dane Love - Major Joseph Learmont of Newholm was in command of the Kings troops who are alleged to have started the actual battle by firing into the Covenanters.
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Re: covenanters imprisoned on bass rock
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 10 December 17 11:50 GMT (UK) »
Perhaps a different man as the poster's Joseph Learmont was in charge of the Covanentor's Horse & imprisoned.
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Re: covenanters imprisoned on bass rock
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 10 December 17 12:56 GMT (UK) »
Lyndsey,
Great to hear about the allotment - that's where I'd be at this moment if the weather was better.
S. Wales, Somerset, Devon - Oxenham

Aberavon - Hopkin/s, Jenkins, Thomas
St. Brides/Wick - Jenkins
Llanblethian -  Price
Abergwynfi -  Han(d)ford
Pontardawe -  Lewis.

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Re: covenanters imprisoned on bass rock
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 10 December 17 15:05 GMT (UK) »
Hi Falkryn,

That seems odd, as Major Joseph Learmont(h) is listed in other sources as one of the Covenanters imprisoned on Bass Rock, then later released (I believe) after William of Orange took the Crown.
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Scotland - Paton, MacKenzie, Morrison, Urquhart, Bryce, Lindsay, Izett, Ferrier, Crawfurd, Strath,
England - Williams, Jones, Whitnall, Abbott, Rayner, Rowden, Hawker, Northcote, Seaman

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Re: covenanters imprisoned on bass rock
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 10 December 17 16:19 GMT (UK) »
Hi Falkryn,

That seems odd, as Major Joseph Learmont(h) is listed in other sources as one of the Covenanters imprisoned on Bass Rock, then later released (I believe) after William of Orange took the Crown.

I have always found Dane Love's works well researched and as he is also listed as an Honorary Secretary of the Covenanter Memorial Society he may know a thing or two about the Covenanters.
My own knowledge of the times and affairs is limited.
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Re: covenanters imprisoned on bass rock
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 10 December 17 17:16 GMT (UK) »
According to J King Hewison in his 1913 book "The Covenanters" Major Joseph Learmont, laird of Newholm, was in command of the Covenanters' horse on the left wing at Rullion Green.

Later in the book he writes that in 1682 "On 7th April , four notable prisoners stood at the bar - Major General Joseph Learmont, the "bonny fighter at Pentland and Bothwell Bridge, now almost an octogenarian..... " They were condemned but on petition clemency prevailed. Hewison goes on to say that "Learmont remaining steadfast and for punishment relegated to the Bass, whence he issued in five years to look forward to the happy Revolution, which he saw".
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Re: covenanters imprisoned on bass rock
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 10 December 17 17:19 GMT (UK) »
From Crookshank's 1762 description of the battle

"They (the Covenanters) were scarce formed in this manner when an alarm came that a body of men was approaching them; they found it was Dalziel's van, which had cut through a ridge in the Pentland hills, and came upon them undiscovered, til they were within a quarter of a mile, upon a hill over against them. Colonel Wallace upon this sent Captain Arnot, who repulsed Lieutenant General Drummond, who was sent by the General (Dalziel) with a select party to begin the attack ...... When the Lieutenant General was driven back, there was no small confusion among Dalziel's army, of whom not a few threw down their arms. Major Lamont made the second attack, and repulsed the enemy; Duke Hamilton narrowly escaping. The last encounter was after sunset, when the General's foot, flanked with their horse upon all hands, overpowered the Colonel's little army, and routed them"
S. Wales, Somerset, Devon - Oxenham

Aberavon - Hopkin/s, Jenkins, Thomas
St. Brides/Wick - Jenkins
Llanblethian -  Price
Abergwynfi -  Han(d)ford
Pontardawe -  Lewis.