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Re: Patrick O'lone, finding the correct Patrick?
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 10 December 17 18:58 GMT (UK) »
Ros has given me all the imformation on the Omagh and Antrim O'loans but honestly cant see them being related they all seem to be farmers etc. I am wondering if Johns father called himself
Patrick whilst in Tralee there was a very strong military background in the family so perhaps he was hiding something also a strong connection to Victoria Barracks so who knows?

Why do you think John's father was in Tralee?
Clearly not all the Omagh ones were farmers as demonstrated by what has been previously posted here.
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Re: Patrick O'lone, finding the correct Patrick?
« Reply #10 on: Monday 11 December 17 11:05 GMT (UK) »
Ive searched all day sunday on the Groni site from the first records up to 1950s ,
all the street directories with no sucess . Theres only record of Agnes O'lones
wedding in Berry St. Presbyterian Church with no address of her home which should be listed.
I strongly believe they could possibly been in the army and living on camp and Patrick
had retired from army and was living in Tralee.

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Re: Patrick O'lone, finding the correct Patrick?
« Reply #11 on: Monday 11 December 17 11:21 GMT (UK) »
Ive searched all day sunday on the Groni site from the first records up to 1950s ,
all the street directories with no sucess .

Entirely possibly they weren't listed in directories- not everyone would have been- and civil records may start too late so you can't really rule out Belfast as their origin just yet.

Theres only record of Agnes O'lones wedding in Berry St. Presbyterian Church with no address of her home which should be listed.
Does her residence not say 'Belfast'? it wasn't uncommon in those days for Belfast marriages to just list that as residence.

Just looking at Irish births in Family Search, I see that Agnes O'Lone and William McKay had quite a few children.
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Re: Patrick O'lone, finding the correct Patrick?
« Reply #12 on: Monday 11 December 17 11:31 GMT (UK) »
Theres no mention of her or her father James in the Proni street directories from 1870 to 1874
until shes married, still no james? came across Anne and Martha O'lone in Ards again
presbyterians sisters or cousins the records arnt specific.


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Re: Patrick O'lone, finding the correct Patrick?
« Reply #13 on: Monday 11 December 17 13:32 GMT (UK) »
Another possibility for Patrick to be in Tralee , who would off accompanied Mary Spence
down from Belfast quite a journey in those days especially for a young woman.
Looked Tralee records so mention of Patrick, theres a few Patrick O'lones who went to USA
so another possibility of no death record.

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Re: Patrick O'lone, finding the correct Patrick?
« Reply #14 on: Monday 11 December 17 14:21 GMT (UK) »
Another possibility for Patrick to be in Tralee , who would off accompanied Mary Spence
down from Belfast quite a journey in those days especially for a young woman.
Looked Tralee records so mention of Patrick, theres a few Patrick O'lones who went to USA
so another possibility of no death record.

It's just as likely that
1) either John and Mary knew each other in Belfast & she travelled with someone/anyone to Tralee to get married where he was stationed, or
2) Mary went to Tralee as a servant of someone else in the army, with a friend or relative (possibly already married to someone in the army) and met Patrick there
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Re: Patrick O'lone, finding the correct Patrick?
« Reply #15 on: Monday 11 December 17 14:39 GMT (UK) »
Its number 1 option John had been in Africa we know that for sure and they did know each other,
the regiment was posted close to tralee when they returned to ireland.
Looked up all pre ww1 records for Patrick none exist so back to square 1.
Cant understand why theres no trace of him bit off a Lord Luccan !!

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Re: Patrick O'lone, finding the correct Patrick?
« Reply #16 on: Monday 11 December 17 14:43 GMT (UK) »
The marriage in Tralee was 1872 and it's possible that Patrick O'Lone died in Ireland before the start of civil registration in 1864. It's really not that uncommon to have difficulty finding records for someone in this era even when you have an uncommon name or exact location.
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Re: Patrick O'lone, finding the correct Patrick?
« Reply #17 on: Monday 11 December 17 15:35 GMT (UK) »
I suppose anythings possible and i believe alot off records were burned or lost in the 1920s,
still going to check out the USA and Canada options even if he was an oldish man could
off left ireland.
John renlisted to fight in WW1 at 73yrs so they were a hardy bunch age or distance
didnt falter them.