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Re: Thomas Baldock born 1792 at Salehurst, Sussex
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 09 December 17 21:45 GMT (UK) »
Georgina Hope Baldock 1834-

Baptized 4 May 1834, at Salehurst
Base daughter of Hannah Baldock
abode Hurst Green
Widow

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Re: Thomas Baldock born 1792 at Salehurst, Sussex
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 09 December 17 21:50 GMT (UK) »
Burial of wife number 1 at Salehurst in 1815
Frances Baldock
abode Hurst Green
buried 18 Decr
age 30 yrs


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Re: Thomas Baldock born 1792 at Salehurst, Sussex
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 09 December 17 21:59 GMT (UK) »
Ah, the marriage for Thomas and Frances was probably in Salehurst in 1806
Thomas Baldock + Frances Chainey, 12 November

He was a bachelor on that one! And Frances was a single woman.
Both of the parish
by Banns
witnessed by William Chainey (X), and, guess who, John Heathfield

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Re: Thomas Baldock born 1792 at Salehurst, Sussex
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 09 December 17 22:23 GMT (UK) »
Hannah probably died June 1851 age 55, reg at Ticehurst (vol 7-363).

That one is not buried at Salehurst.
There is a Hannah buried there a few years later in 1854
Hannah Baldock
abode Hurst Green
buried Febry 5
age 55

In the GRO death indexes
March qtr 1854 Ticehurst 2b 55
Baldock, Hanah
age 55

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Re: Thomas Baldock born 1792 at Salehurst, Sussex
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 09 December 17 23:37 GMT (UK) »
They feature in the Salehurst "Paupers Ledgers". All the payments!
1824 (-1828)
Thomas Baldock
Bricklayer
Hurst Green

children
Mary Ann 6 (in 1824)
James 3
Philly 0
Their ages each year are noted
and so Samuel joins the list in 1827

His wife was ill in 1824

1828 (-1830)
Thos Baldock
Died 8 Feby 1829
+
Wd Baldock

Elizabeth joins the list of children in 1830

1830 (-1833)
Widow Baldock, 30
Hurst Green

John Hope was added to the list of children in 1833
+ Infant 3 April 1834

Got cash for clothes, 25 Oct 1833, Mary Ann was going into service in Hastings (Mr Foster?)

Wonderful stuff!
John

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Re: Thomas Baldock born 1792 at Salehurst, Sussex
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 10 December 17 00:18 GMT (UK) »
The paupers ledger says that Philly died 16 Decr 1828
Here's her burial at Salehurst
Philadelphia Baldock
abode Hurst Green
buried December 20th
age 4

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Re: Thomas Baldock born 1792 at Salehurst, Sussex
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 10 December 17 01:36 GMT (UK) »
Jonw65 Thank you for that info.

There are several Hannah Baldocks about that time. It is difficult to distinguish them.
I agree with you. The Sussex Parish Registers confirm that a Hannah Baldock was buried at Salehurst in 1854, which makes her born circa 1799, which is close to her christening date of 1798. There is a difference in spelling her name, with the parish registers recording a double n, and the EW BMD suggesting there was only a single n. Nevertheless probably the same and right person.

The Hannah Baldock who died in 1851 reg Ticehurst vol 7-363 appears to have been only 1 year of age, so she is not our Hannah. Clearly that was an error on my part. Grateful to you for pointing it out.

Hannah Baldock probably died between 1851-61 because she appears in the 1851 Census residing at Hurst Green, but is absent from the 1861 census. The 1851 census says…
Hannah Baldock 51 married Laundress  b. Salehurst
Samuel Baldock  24 son single Gardener  b Salehurst
Georgina Hope Baldock  16 daughter single b. Salehurst

The remaining children have the right names so it is definitely her. Her husband Thomas Baldock is missing and he was also missing in the 1841 census. Does anyone know what happened to him?

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Re: Thomas Baldock born 1792 at Salehurst, Sussex
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 10 December 17 02:25 GMT (UK) »
Thanks John

I have just seen your info… Thos Baldock died 8 Feby 1829. That explains why I couldn’t find him… Thos instead of Thomas.

Re: John Hope Baldock and Georgina Hope Baldock… The base born children with the Hope middle name may have been the offspring of one of the members of the Hope family who lived close nearby in Salehurst during that decade. Of course it could just be an aspiring name with which to christen children? The Baldocks have some form christening their children with neighbour’s surnames, because in the next generation a Henry Tolhurst Baldock 1860-1943 is named after a friendly neighbouring family, the Tolhursts.

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Re: Thomas Baldock born 1792 at Salehurst, Sussex
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 10 December 17 03:31 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Emeltom for the info re "Thomas Baldock baptised in Burwash 30 Sep 1792, parents William and Sarah". The year is right. Great !  I will explore that inter-village link with interest. There were also a significant number of Baldcock families living in Wadhurst, over several lifetimes, that is another inter-village connection worth exploring.

Thanks John for all the info from the Salehurst "Paupers Ledgers", brilliant !

Yehan