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Re: 1841 census too faint to read
« Reply #9 on: Monday 11 December 17 11:39 GMT (UK) »

It looks to me that Susannah was a Widow when she married George 1838.
Susanah AUSTEN, maiden name GRANT

You need to find all the Baptisms of the Children pre 1838 under either Waters or Austen.

The reason I say that is George may have been Widowed also and 1841 the Children are possibly from both earlier Marriages.

Only buying the M/C will confirm definitely.

Trish :)

That makes sense, I'll look into it.
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Re: 1841 census too faint to read
« Reply #10 on: Monday 11 December 17 11:47 GMT (UK) »
Hi again Rob, I'm amazed with all the Family Trees on this Family no one seems to have brought the 1838 M/C.

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Re: 1841 census too faint to read
« Reply #11 on: Monday 11 December 17 12:44 GMT (UK) »
Maybe I've got it all wrong - are you looking at the marriages in September quarter 1838 - Canterbury Registration District?

Susanna/Susannah Austen
Henry Cullen Carter
Jane Court Cullen
John Hayward
William Kerr Loveless
Sarah Elizabeth Maynard
Mary Simmons Philpot
George Waters

John Hayward marries Susanna/Susannah Austen
George Waters marries Mary Simmons Philpot
Henry Cullen Carter marries Jane Court Cullen
William Kerr Loveless marries Sarah Elizabeth Maynard

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Re: 1841 census too faint to read
« Reply #12 on: Monday 11 December 17 12:51 GMT (UK) »
St Mildred, Canterbury - by Banns - 25 December 1830

George Waters, bachelor and Susan Grant, spinster.
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Re: 1841 census too faint to read
« Reply #13 on: Monday 11 December 17 13:17 GMT (UK) »
Snap, BB :) 

Just found it too - that site is running very slow for me   :-\

Added - William (Wm) Grant one of the witnesses
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Re: 1841 census too faint to read
« Reply #14 on: Monday 11 December 17 13:22 GMT (UK) »
I can only see two baptisms - Christ Church, Dunkirk

Elizabeth - 21 May 1843 - George (Blacksmith) and Susannah of Dunkirk

Emma - 23 March 1845 - George (Blacksmith) and Susannah of Dunkirk
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Re: 1841 census too faint to read
« Reply #15 on: Monday 11 December 17 13:40 GMT (UK) »
I'm on an old laptop which only has an old version of Photoshop on it so a bit limited but have tried to bring up George's details.

It looks as if he might be 55 ( add - or 35) and I think I see the shape of Blacksmith there - definitely a B and a k, etc.

Could Ann, aged 14, be a child born to them before marriage as the marriage entry has Susan's name as Waters crossed out and Grant inserted?

Will see if I can get the snip up via a link - see below

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Re: 1841 census too faint to read
« Reply #16 on: Monday 11 December 17 14:20 GMT (UK) »
Maybe I've got it all wrong - are you looking at the marriages in September quarter 1838 - Canterbury Registration District?
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John Hayward marries Susanna/Susannah Austen
George Waters marries Mary Simmons Philpot
Henry Cullen Carter marries Jane Court Cullen
William Kerr Loveless marries Sarah Elizabeth Maynard

Images for all 4 marriages, at All Saints, Canterbury, are on FindMyPast.

The 1838 marriage bothered me, seems like people trying to make the evidence fit where they want it to.
The 1830 marriage seems much more likely.  Pity I can't find more accurate birth dates for the two eldest children on the 1841 census at the moment.

I'm on an old laptop which only has an old version of Photoshop on it so a bit limited but have tried to bring up George's details.

It looks as if he might be 55 ( add - or 35) and I think I see the shape of Blacksmith there - definitely a B and a k, etc.
He'd probably be 35, and he was a blacksmith.

Could Ann, aged 14, be a child born to them before marriage as the marriage entry has Susan's name as Waters crossed out and Grant inserted?
Is this from FindMyPast?

Thank you both
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Re: 1841 census too faint to read
« Reply #17 on: Monday 11 December 17 14:24 GMT (UK) »
Yes.

Added:  possible reason I can't see earlier baptisms, at Dunkirk, might be that earlier volumes are not available to view.  :-\ 
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