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Re: Mother's maiden name is the same as the father's surname
« Reply #9 on: Monday 11 December 17 22:59 GMT (UK) »
I have a Morse marrying a Morse and they are not related. (I looked hard enough!)

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Re: Mother's maiden name is the same as the father's surname
« Reply #10 on: Monday 11 December 17 23:01 GMT (UK) »
I have a Morse marrying a Morse and they are not related. (I looked hard enough!)

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Re: Mother's maiden name is the same as the father's surname
« Reply #11 on: Monday 11 December 17 23:02 GMT (UK) »
You could always get the marriage certificate and see who the fathers are for the couple.    ::)
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Re: Mother's maiden name is the same as the father's surname
« Reply #12 on: Monday 11 December 17 23:03 GMT (UK) »
Several times I have had this same situation when helping on various sites.

First time it happened I was puzzled, but then shrugged and accepted it.


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Re: Mother's maiden name is the same as the father's surname
« Reply #13 on: Monday 11 December 17 23:05 GMT (UK) »
You could always get the marriage certificate and see who the fathers are for the couple.    ::)

This looks like the marriage

Marriages Jun 1848   

GARDINER    George        Weardale 24 363
GARDINER    Jane        Weardale    24   363   

I was about to suggest the same thing Girl Guide. You might be able to find both George and Jane on the 1841 census, but as that won't give a lot of detail you would be better off buying the certificate.
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Re: Mother's maiden name is the same as the father's surname
« Reply #14 on: Monday 11 December 17 23:14 GMT (UK) »
You could always get the marriage certificate and see who the fathers are for the couple.    ::)

This looks like the marriage

Marriages Jun 1848   

GARDINER    George        Weardale 24 363
GARDINER    Jane        Weardale    24   363   

I was about to suggest the same thing Girl Guide. You might be able to find both George and Jane on the 1841 census, but as that won't give a lot of detail you would be better off buying the certificate.

thanks, ill add it to my list of certificates to buy

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Re: Mother's maiden name is the same as the father's surname
« Reply #15 on: Monday 11 December 17 23:48 GMT (UK) »
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JSYP-MLB  Christening 8 Dec 1850

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VBZL-8SC 1871

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q271-MH6P 1881 Notice Geo’s sister in law is with the family, and she was born same locality as Geo’s wife Jane.  The sister in law was Hannah GARDINER - so I think it is likely Hannah and Jane would be sisters. 

 

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Re: Mother's maiden name is the same as the father's surname
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 12 December 17 00:06 GMT (UK) »
Hi there,

I see nothing odd or unlikely about Jane's maiden surname being same as her married surname.    Have you looked for the marriage, or for births of siblings for the baby being registered?

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You don't think it's unusual that a man and a woman with the same surname should marry? It's not exactly as common as 'Smith'!

I have a Gardiner ancestor. It was the commonest surname in her township in Lancashire. Her mother-in-law was Smith and her daughter-in-law- (from a different parish) was also Smith. Their husbands had the commonest surname in their parish, so there were several marriages of brides and grooms with that surname. Those were my grandfather's ancestors.
 My grandmother's 2x great-grandparents had the same surname. Bride's husband, father and brother had the same 1st & last names which must have been confusing. A  brother and sister from the same families were already married to each other; again bride's husband, father and brother shared 1st and last names. A daughter of GM's 2x GGPs married a grandson of a cousin so their descendants have that surname in 3 of their lines. It's an uncommon surname, found mainly in one region of the county. Another of GM's ancestors, from the neighbouring parish to the tribe above had the commonest surname in his parish. It was also  his mother-in-law's maiden name. As a result of these marriages GM's tree is short on surnames. Her mother's family also ran out of family Christian names so her mother and aunt shared one.
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Re: Mother's maiden name is the same as the father's surname
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 12 December 17 00:09 GMT (UK) »
On the 1841 census
HO107; Piece: 308; Book: 18; Folio: 4; Page: 2; Line: 22 Wolsingham, there is this family

Michael  Gardiner 60   Ag Lab
Jane      Gardiner   40
Hannah  Gardiner  12
Margaret Gardiner  10
Sarah     Gardiner   6
Elizabeth Gardiner   2

Also on the same image, but at different addresses there is a Jane Gardiner 14, a Female Servant and a Phebe Gardiner 15 also a female servant. So possibly the two older daughters had been sent out to work.
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