Married in Essex but living in South Shields - How come?

[dtcoulson]

Thanks, Shaun,

I don't see Gordon Tce on the 1914 map... maybe was redeveloped into new housing?

The names of the occupants of the addresses provide no clue.

However the area is clearly suitable for work on railways or docks or both.

Wondering now about the bride, Jane Sewell, who appears to have come down all by herself to work (age mid-twenties), presumably as a cleaner or something. Was this normal in those days? From Newcastle is a long way.

-DC

[dtcoulson]

Realising that this conversation might be grinding to a halt,
I'll just add these last new developments in the story, for what they're worth:

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I checked the birth date and location for William & Jane's first child.
She was born in South Shields in Feb 1890. Therefore the couple we are examining left West Ham very soon after marrying.

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I checked on the proximity of the family of Louisa Coulson, the witness to the wedding.
Her kids were born in West Ham, though I haven't tracked down their precise address yet.
Louisa is wife to William's brother (Joseph), and they moved down to London sometime before 1889. It is now very probable that William went down to London on a recommendation from his brother and that the brother may even have helped him find a job. I haven't yet checked on Joseph's occupation or place of employment.

Wish I could have a clearer picture of why Jane went so far from home to get work, if indeed that is what brought her to London.

Anyway if this is where the search stops, thanks all for the information provided.

-David C

[ShaunJ]

Wish I could have a clearer picture of why Jane went so far from home to get work, if indeed that is what brought her to London.

Isn't it possible that she went to London to be with William?

[ShaunJ]

I don't see Gordon Tce on the 1914 map... maybe was redeveloped into new housing?

"Gordon Terrace" was a row of houses on Clyde Road, not a separate street, and would not merit a mention on the OS maps.

Here's a 1893-4 map http://maps.nls.uk/view/101919837#zoom=5&lat=8099&lon=4299&layers=BT

The 1891 census lists 20 dwellings in Clyde Road and 16 dwellings in Gordon Terrace, Clyde Road. So Gordon Terrace must be the block of 16 terraced houses above the word "Clyde".

[dtcoulson]

Excellent. Thanks for clarifying about Gordon Tce.

Regarding reasons for Jane coming to West Ham, of course anything is possible.

William's brother Joseph was a blacksmith in several census years,
lived in Fords Park Rd in 1891, Scotts Rd in 1901.
He married a London girl (Louisa) in 1887.

Hard to say now which brother came to London first.
Perhaps they came down to London together.... who knows.

[PaulineJ]

You are being a bit coy about which date they wed in 1889, but given that a child was b Feb 1890, is it possible that the bride was up the spout? (she simply went down to his locale) rather than he leave his job to wed her up north?

[ShaunJ]

You are being a bit coy about which date they wed in 1889

See the original post: "My great grandparents married in St Marks Parish church, Victoria Docks, Essex, on Feb 10th, 1889. Their names are William Sanderson Coulson & Jane Sewell. "

[groom]

How old was Jane when they married? Could it be that she was under 21 and her parents wouldn't give them permission, so they decided to marry where they weren't known. As he had relations in London perhaps that is why they chose there. 

[dtcoulson]

William was 24, Jane was 22 (on Feb 10 1889, shown in marriage cert).