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Re: Where is Emma's daughter?
« Reply #27 on: Saturday 16 December 17 10:09 GMT (UK) »
William Cogan wasn't always a cooper which makes finding him harder. these may all be him:

1865:  William Cogan, 19, cooper, s William, cooper m Sarah Butler
1871: William Cogan, 26, cooper + Sarah, 25; Sarah, 6; William, 2; Edward, 6m
1881: William, 34, widower, dock labourer, b Spitalfields + dau, Sarah, 15 (his three other children, William, 14, Edward, 12, Elizabeth, 10 are in the MEOT workhouse school)
1891: William Cogan, 47, gen lab, b Spitalfields + 'wife', Eliza, 48
1894: William Cogan, cooper, s William, bricklayer m Eliza Dales (nee Bolland)

He appears to be unlucky with his marriages (or bigamous!).

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Re: Where is Emma's daughter?
« Reply #28 on: Saturday 16 December 17 14:48 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for all the info on William Cogan, seems to have had a few wives!!

Have found a marriage for an Annie Lee marrying a William J Haxell sept qtr 1889 in Edmonton 3a 358. On the 1901 census they can be found living in Ipswich and their eldest daughter is named Emma, possibly after Annie’s mother Emma Dewis (Lee,Meek,Cogan).
On the census Annie is recorded as born London.
Do you think I am on the right track?
Dewis - London
Garmonsway - London
Craze - Dunster
Francis - Hilperton
Llewellyn - Cardiff & Pembroke

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Re: Where is Emma's daughter?
« Reply #29 on: Saturday 16 December 17 14:58 GMT (UK) »
The 1889 marriage is Aug 6th

Annie Maria Lee 20 add 20 Beaconsfield Road Edmonton father Alfred Lee carter

witnesses are Alfred Lee and Ellen Lee

Bit young to be your Annie do you think?  Unless like her mother she aged less than most of us!

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Re: Where is Emma's daughter?
« Reply #30 on: Saturday 16 December 17 15:03 GMT (UK) »
In 1871 she is age 1 born Shoreditch with father Alfred 28 and mother Eliza 28 so I think not the Annie we are looking for (also with parents in 1881)

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Re: Where is Emma's daughter?
« Reply #31 on: Saturday 16 December 17 15:11 GMT (UK) »
There are a few Annie Lee marriages in London and they have fathers names but Annie could have made up a fathers name anyway so  :-\

Can only think to check the address from the 1896 marriage for Emma on the 1901 census - maybe someone can read it better than I can and are skilled at finding addresses.

Or follow up the servants called Annie Lee in 1881 to see what happens to them.

Can't say we aren't giving it a good go  ;D
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Re: Where is Emma's daughter?
« Reply #32 on: Saturday 16 December 17 15:45 GMT (UK) »
I agree that this Annie Maria is not my Annie, her father was Joseph.
I think the address on the 1896 marriage is Barons Street Stepney. Of all the marriages for Annie have you found a marriage for an Annie Lee with a father named Joseph?
You are all giving this search a good go and I really appreciate all the help you are giving me
Dewis - London
Garmonsway - London
Craze - Dunster
Francis - Hilperton
Llewellyn - Cardiff & Pembroke

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Re: Where is Emma's daughter?
« Reply #33 on: Saturday 16 December 17 17:53 GMT (UK) »
Looks like William Cogan was not a bigamist when he married Emma as there is a death record for an Eliza Cogen (with an e) age 51 in Dec 1895
Dewis - London
Garmonsway - London
Craze - Dunster
Francis - Hilperton
Llewellyn - Cardiff & Pembroke

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Re: Where is Emma's daughter?
« Reply #34 on: Saturday 16 December 17 19:34 GMT (UK) »
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Of all the marriages for Annie have you found a marriage for an Annie Lee with a father named Joseph?

Not apart from the one we have ruled out. 

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Re: Where is Emma's daughter?
« Reply #35 on: Saturday 16 December 17 19:54 GMT (UK) »
Failing miserably at finding the address  :-[

There is/was a Baron St in Holborn Middlesex - is that Stepney area, sorry I don't know London much.
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