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Re: Where is Emma's daughter?
« Reply #54 on: Saturday 23 December 17 16:53 GMT (UK) »
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I would leave it out if you are not sure that it is going to be Joseph Lee.
If you have identified some birth possibilities, remember that you can see the mother's maiden name on the new GRO index (on their website)
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Re: Where is Emma's daughter?
« Reply #55 on: Monday 25 December 17 09:53 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for the advice
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Re: Where is Emma's daughter?
« Reply #56 on: Saturday 30 December 17 19:15 GMT (UK) »
Having looked on the new GRO index I cannot find a birth record for Annie Lee with a motherís maiden name of Dewis. So not sure if to proceed to order birth certificates given the 1871 census age of 8 born 1863 whilst parents married in 1866, I have the marriage certificate.
I am starting to think that Annie was the daughter of Joseph but Emma Dewis was not her mother!
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Re: Where is Emma's daughter?
« Reply #57 on: Saturday 30 December 17 20:56 GMT (UK) »
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I am at a loss over Annie and who she might have been. As she wasn't at home in 1881 it was impossible to pin her down.
But if you are itching to get a certificate, or rather one of the £6 register copies you can get at the moment, there is that possible death of Emma you found in Bethnal Green.
Because her later whereabouts is also a big mystery!
John

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Re: Where is Emma's daughter?
« Reply #58 on: Saturday 30 December 17 22:18 GMT (UK) »
I wondered too if Emma wasn't her mother and she was possibly "adopted" by the Lee couple because Emma far as we know didn't have any (or any more if Annie was hers) children.

The logical first assumption is that she was Annie Dewis born whilst Emma was unmarried but as there are no births registered in that name  ???
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Re: Where is Emma's daughter?
« Reply #59 on: Monday 08 January 18 11:44 GMT (UK) »
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I am at a loss over Annie and who she might have been. As she wasn't at home in 1881 it was impossible to pin her down.
But if you are itching to get a certificate, or rather one of the £6 register copies you can get at the moment, there is that possible death of Emma you found in Bethnal Green.
Because her later whereabouts is also a big mystery!
John

Death certificate has arrived but I think it does not take us further forward in the search for Annie. I was hoping the person registering the death was Annie with possibly a married name. The informant though is her niece but cannot read her surname but the initial of her first name is R.
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Re: Where is Emma's daughter?
« Reply #60 on: Monday 08 January 18 11:48 GMT (UK) »
It's "R Churches"

15 Spring Gardens
King Edward Street
Whitechapel
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Re: Where is Emma's daughter?
« Reply #61 on: Monday 08 January 18 16:39 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Pauline for reading the name. The name R Churches is not known to me and of all her nephews and nieces I have found for Emma on her side of the family none of them has a first name beginning with R.

Either R Churches is a married name or she must be from Emma's husbands side of the family which I have no record of.

Why could it not have been ANNIE Churches and my search would have had another clue as to whether she married.

I think I might have to park this one up for the time being as my stress levels are rising!!
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Re: Where is Emma's daughter?
« Reply #62 on: Monday 08 January 18 18:36 GMT (UK) »
1919 electoral register
Hamlet of Mile End New Town
15 Spring Gardens
Edward Churches
Rachael Churches

In 1901, a possibility in Bethnal Green
piece 286 folio 116 page 44
19 Princes(s) Court
Edward Church Head 37 Laborer in Fruit Market
Rachael Church Wife 38 Charwoman
both born Whitechapel

1911 free index, I think may be at same address
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWGB-D6Z

Emma doesn't appear to be listed at 8 James Street, Bethnal Green in 1918. The electoral register has William Wallis Mucanner and Mary Ann Mucanner at that address.
Their name might really be Buchanan.
John