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Re: Where is Emma's daughter?
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 14 December 17 16:46 GMT (UK) »
Have not found any more children for Emma. After marrying Thomas Meek in 1876 there is another marriage record for a Emma Meek marrying a William Cogen (poss Cogan?) in 1896. Not sure if this is my Emma. What is also confusing is that there are several electoral register records for a Emma Sarah Meek in the right area of London. The more I search the more confused I become!!
Dewis - London
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Craze - Dunster
Francis - Hilperton
Llewellyn - Cardiff & Pembroke

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Re: Where is Emma's daughter?
« Reply #10 on: Friday 15 December 17 11:03 GMT (UK) »
Yes it must be your Emma because the 1896 marriage names her father as Thomas Dewis deceased.

Emma is 40 and a widow so that would make her born c1856 which is somewhat off the mark.   

William Cogan is 48 and a widower.  Father William deceased.

I think William is in the workhouse and widowed prior to 1911.





 
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Re: Where is Emma's daughter?
« Reply #11 on: Friday 15 December 17 11:26 GMT (UK) »
There are electoral rolls for Sarah Emma Meek beyond 1896 when your Emma is married to William Coglan so I don't think that can be her.

I agree it is very perplexing and does nothing to help find Annie Lee.  I can't help wondering if she was adopted and doesn't belong to Emma at all  :-\  without a birth registration or further sighting of them together we are lost  :(
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Re: Where is Emma's daughter?
« Reply #12 on: Friday 15 December 17 11:32 GMT (UK) »
Oh dear.  Emma Lee is 36 when she marries in 1876 and 40 when she marries in 1896.

So she has only aged 4 years in 20 :o that is really pushing it. 

Emma Sarah Dewis - if she is Emma Sarah as she always seems to be just Emma - birth is Sep 1838 mothers name Evans. 
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Re: Where is Emma's daughter?
« Reply #13 on: Friday 15 December 17 14:16 GMT (UK) »
Emma Sarah Dewis - if she is Emma Sarah as she always seems to be just Emma - birth is Sep 1838 mothers name Evans.

Baptism has her as Emma Mary Dewis

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Re: Where is Emma's daughter?
« Reply #14 on: Friday 15 December 17 16:09 GMT (UK) »
Many thanks for your replies, Milliepede & RJKnott.As Emma was born on the 18th July 1838 she has been more than generous with her age on her last two marriages!!!
Is Emma"s last husband William Cogan or COGEN or as in your post Coglan (miss type?)
Thank you so much for confirming Emma did marry William and therefore the electoral rolls are not my Emma.
As you say that William was in the workhouse and widowed before 1911 I guess I need to find a death record for Emma from her marriage date to 1911?

 I still need to find Annie and it looks to be getting more harder the further I delve.
Dewis - London
Garmonsway - London
Craze - Dunster
Francis - Hilperton
Llewellyn - Cardiff & Pembroke

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Re: Where is Emma's daughter?
« Reply #15 on: Friday 15 December 17 16:17 GMT (UK) »
Just found a death for an Emma Cogan  March qtr 1919 Bethnal Green 1c170 age 80. which means a birth date of 1838/39 which is correct. If this is my Emma she should be on the 1911 census and as  her husband William is in the workhouse I wonder if Emma is also?
Dewis - London
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Francis - Hilperton
Llewellyn - Cardiff & Pembroke

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Re: Where is Emma's daughter?
« Reply #16 on: Friday 15 December 17 16:45 GMT (UK) »
William Cogan and Emma should be together on the 1901 census but not that I can find!!

Might be a long shot but if the 1919 death record is Emma then her daughter Annie might have registered the death?? and have a married name?? Might be worth sending for the certificate, not sure.
Dewis - London
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Re: Where is Emma's daughter?
« Reply #17 on: Friday 15 December 17 17:27 GMT (UK) »
Don't know if her, but there is this in 1901, no husband listed with her.

44, Driffield Road East, Bow or Stratford-Le-Bow, Poplar, London & Middlesex
Emma   Coghlan   Married   Female   65   Vest Hand, Bow, Middlesex

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