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Offline Druid56

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Birth Certificate Annie Hall
« on: Thursday 14 December 17 23:51 GMT (UK) »
Hi I am trying to discover  who the parents were of Annie Hall. I believe she was born 25 Feb 1868 possibly in Church Stretton  .I have her in 1871 census as a 3 year old living in Cardington with her grand parents ,Job Hall and Dorothy his wife  as well as Maria their daughter and another 5 children under the age of 6, she has Job as her father on her marriage cert but I believe this maybe because he brought her up  again there is a family story that says she may have been born in a poorhouse any help would be appreciated 
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Re: Birth Certificate Annie Hall
« Reply #1 on: Friday 15 December 17 00:25 GMT (UK) »
Job & Dorothy have 4 granddaughters and 2 grandsons living with them in 1871 and all are shown as born in Cardington.  They also have a 27yr old unmarried daughter with them

Any chance this is her birth reg - GRO online shows no mmn so illegitimate.

Births March qtr 1868 
HALL    Emma Ann  Church Stretton    6a   566

Grandson Henry born 1866 also shows no mmn and neither does Hannah b 1864
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Re: Birth Certificate Annie Hall
« Reply #2 on: Friday 15 December 17 01:02 GMT (UK) »
There is an entry in the School Admission Log or Cardington C Of E School

Admission Feb 1874
No entry for baptism
Name Ann Hall
Parent Maria Hall
Address Cardington
DOB 25 Feb 1868

There are also records for a brother called Job Hall (born 6 May 1872) showing mother as Maria Hall. He was baptised. School admission records also name Maria Hall b 1871 as daughter of Maria. There are also baptism records in Cardington showing that Hannah and Henry were also Maria's illegitimate children.

Baptism records would suggest that the other two grandchildren showing in the 1871 census,James and Jane were the children of Philip and Fanny Hall (the baptism for Jane is showing father as deceased).

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Re: Birth Certificate Annie Hall
« Reply #3 on: Friday 15 December 17 01:11 GMT (UK) »
Looks very likely the correct birth reg found by Carole.  Would fit with a birthdate in Feb.

Emma Ann Hall
Baptism date   04 Mar 1868
Denomination   Anglican
Place   Church Stretton
Father: -
Mother:  Maria Hall, occ servant
Residence Union House
Record set   Shropshire Baptisms
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Gibbons, Timbrell, Beale, Ludlow - Glos/Wilts
Davies, Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd, Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Shoemac, Squire, Keirle, Small - Somerset
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Re: Birth Certificate Annie Hall
« Reply #4 on: Friday 15 December 17 09:59 GMT (UK) »
Good find, Cas. I only checked the Cardington baptisms (presumably the baptisms showing in the Cardington C of E  School register come from the Cardington parish records).

It would appear that mother Maria had all her children baptised as there is also a baptism record for her daughter Maria in Easthope Parish. ( Illegitimate privateley, Child: Maria, Parent: Maria Hall, Abode: Cardington Parish, Occupation: Servant 8 Sept 1870).

The baptism found by Cas may well back up your family story of Annie being born in the Workhouse, Both Cardington and Easthope were part of the Church Stretton Union. I was interested to see, having been a Shropshire Lad for many years, that the workhouse was demolished in 1959 and its site is now occupied by part of Church Stretton School.

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Dent (Haltwhistle and Sacriston), Bell and Jetson (Haltwhistle), Postle, Ward, Longstaff, Purvis, Manners, Parnaby and Hardy (Co. Durham), Kennedy and McRobert (Banffshire), Reid(Bathgate), Watson (Wemyss), Graham (Libberton), Sandilands (Carmichael), Munro (Dingwall)

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Re: Birth Certificate Annie Hall
« Reply #5 on: Friday 15 December 17 11:10 GMT (UK) »
Also note that there is a burial in Cardington 30 Sept 1873 for a Maria Hall age 33. (age slightly out as other evidence would suggest born in 1843).

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Re: Birth Certificate Annie Hall
« Reply #6 on: Friday 15 December 17 16:14 GMT (UK) »
Hi William, think very likely that is the death of Maria in 1873.

Druids - Online tree for Job b1808 - d1876 Cardington, which goes back a few generations. Would verify info with owner.

https://www.werelate.org/wiki/Person:Job_Hall_(4) do a search if link has no info.

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Gibbons, Mordecai/Mort, Squire, Thomas, David/Davies, Joseph, Bowen, Lewis, Rees, Williams, Jones, Llewellyn, Morgan - Glam
Gibbons, Timbrell, Beale, Ludlow - Glos/Wilts
Davies, Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd, Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Shoemac, Squire, Keirle, Small - Somerset
Berry, Baggot, Lee, Clayton - Lancs
Baggot, Hurley, Keaveny, Shiel, Flynn - Ireland
Bray - Cornwall

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Re: Birth Certificate Annie Hall
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 16 December 17 12:06 GMT (UK) »
 :D Thanks to all you guys for your assistance  I am very impressed  I have been searching for a while and not managed to come up with anything conclusive .I did think that maybe Maria was her mother  but could not find confirmation .you guys have all come up trumps with even more info that I didn't know tx again to you all and have a good xmas  :)
McCcoskry, Coskry,Copland, Rigg, McGinn,Agnew,Crone, Sw/Scotland
Kirkcudbrghtshire , Wigtownshire, Dumfrieshire
 
Jack,Connell
Black,Wright ,Duncan, Derby,McFadyen,Dunbar
Glasgow and surrounding areas

Weale  , Hall
Much Wenlock and surrounding area Shropshire