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Offline dorothyl

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« Reply #18 on: Saturday 16 December 17 09:13 GMT (UK) »
Hi
I'm sorry about the confusion.
I haven't got my grans  birth certificate.  This is why I'm trying to find out where she was born.
I was told by Scotland missing people. They can't find any records on her.and said it's possible she was adopted.
Then told me her  biological father  is  David Joseph shulman.
 On my mum's birth certificate it says her mother's maiden name is formally hill.
This is why  as you say  me repeating myself. Which I really  do apologise for.

Thank you again for your help

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« Reply #19 on: Saturday 16 December 17 09:31 GMT (UK) »
There is a school registration for a David Schulman bn c1882 father Benjamin in Manchester

I was looking at Benjamin for his father earlier...

Scotland Census, 1891
Benjamin Shulman.
Born 1862.
St George
Midlothian.     Same area as David

I think his wife is Dina Shulman. Maybe siblings of David, Samuel Shulman, 1885,
Dora Shulman, 1890.


The 1891, 1901 and Davids death all fit.


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« Reply #20 on: Saturday 16 December 17 09:44 GMT (UK) »
1891 says that David and Samuel are born Manchester, but there are no registration entries for either name in England/Wales - I don't have access to Scottish records.  1901 census says David is born Scotland.

1891 Scottish census says that Benjamin is a water garment maker, which ties in with the 1901 English census entry for David Shulman being a water garment maker.

David Joseph's death certificate may throw light on the mystery.
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« Reply #21 on: Saturday 16 December 17 09:51 GMT (UK) »
I'm not sure that it helps finding Eveline's birth, but there is Benjamin SHULMAN in the 1911 census in Manchester, a waterproof garment maker, born Russia, with family - some of whom were born in Scotland, and others in Manchester. We're not allowed to put details of the 1911 here, but it is transcribed on familysearch, so I think it's ok to post a link:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XW18-X9F

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« Reply #22 on: Saturday 16 December 17 09:55 GMT (UK) »
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They can't find any records on her.and said it's possible she was adopted.
Then told me her  biological father  is  David Joseph shulman.

How do they know that if they can't find any records?


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« Reply #23 on: Saturday 16 December 17 09:58 GMT (UK) »
1901 Scottish census entry for Benjamin ties in with 1891 Scottish census and 1911 Manchester census.

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« Reply #24 on: Saturday 16 December 17 10:00 GMT (UK) »
Marriage in Scotland
1908 St Machar
David Joseph Schulman + Annie O'Brien

There's a marriage straight after that death of David in March qtr 1921
June 1921 Chorlton 8c 1712
Johnson, Bertram
Shulman, Annie

Lancashire BMD says Register Office or Registrar Attended
Also gives bride as Annie O'Brien

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« Reply #25 on: Saturday 16 December 17 10:08 GMT (UK) »
Marriage in Scotland
1908 St Machar
David Joseph Schulman + Annie O'Brien

Thats thrown a spanner in the works.

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« Reply #26 on: Saturday 16 December 17 10:09 GMT (UK) »
Thank you. For that.
Now I'm totally confused.  Lol
My mum's birth certificate  says her mum's ( eveline Jones  which is her married name )
It says name. Surname and mother's maiden name. 
Then it says in the  column. Eveline Jones  formally hill.