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Re: Thomas George Thorburn (b. 1876 Neath) to New York?
« Reply #27 on: Tuesday 19 December 17 17:22 GMT (UK) »
Not sure about that marriage because a family tree with them on doesn't have a daughter Mary Ann  :-\

Around the time she was born there is only a Margaret/Maggie and she is at home 1881/1891/1901.

Although this is interesting - a younger sister Catherine Jane born c1894 ends up guess where in the 1940 US census - Scranton Pennyslvania  :D

Catherine Jane Jones - [Catherine Jane George]

23 December 1894 Wales  - 9 May 1954 -  Scranton, Lackawanna, Pennsylvania. Parents - George George - resided 334 N Sumner Ave. Scranton PA.  Informant Mrs E Miller.
Abington Hills Cemetery. South Abington Township Lackawanna PA.
Mother Jane Davis.

334 N Summer Avenue Scranton, Lackawanna, Pennsylvania 1940

Gwilym Jones 45 Mining Contractor - Own Business.
Catherine J Jones 46
Gwladys L Jones 21

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Re: Thomas George Thorburn (b. 1876 Neath) to New York?
« Reply #28 on: Tuesday 19 December 17 17:29 GMT (UK) »
Gwladys Jones (daughter of above) married 6 May 1946 Scranton, Lackawanna, Pennsylvania.
Father  Gwilyn Jones and Mother Catherine George - Spouse Ernest Frederick Miller.

Gwladys J Miller - 13 July 1918 passed away 24 June 1985 - Upton MA
Burial - Massachusetts National Cemetery  Bourne, Barnstable County, Massachusetts.
PLOT 12, 0, 535

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/995171

husband Ernest F Miller - 27 November 1924 - 4 September 2013

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/175691908/ernest-f.-miller

1930 census No Sumner Avenue Scranton, Lackawanna, Pennsylvania.

Gurlynar Jones   35 Born Wales. Imm 1925. Alien. Carpenter.
Catherine Jones   35 Born Wales. Imm 1925.
Geolodgs Jones   11 Born Wales. Imm 1925.
Hadyn Morris   23 Born Wales. Boarder.

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Re: Thomas George Thorburn (b. 1876 Neath) to New York?
« Reply #29 on: Tuesday 19 December 17 19:00 GMT (UK) »
Thank you very much everyone, much more than I could have hoped for :D

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Re: Thomas George Thorburn (b. 1876 Neath) to New York?
« Reply #30 on: Tuesday 19 December 17 20:12 GMT (UK) »
Not sure how your welsh is, but searching the Welsh Newspapers online site shows that Thomas George graduated as Bachelor of Music in 1908 - known as Tom, faithful member of Bethel who joined in all activities, especially singing, left Glynneath in 1897. lost his parents when young and care of the family fell on him. In the US is an eisteddfod adjudicator and leads the singing in the Hyde Park church, Scranton (brief english version mentions he has Kidwelly roots)

Also a report of him and family returning to Resolven and Pontardawe in for a visit in July 1914

A couple of articles from 1914-18 refer to him as Prof Thomas Thorburn


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Re: Thomas George Thorburn (b. 1876 Neath) to New York?
« Reply #31 on: Tuesday 19 December 17 21:01 GMT (UK) »
Not sure how your welsh is, but searching the Welsh Newspapers online site shows that Thomas George graduated as Bachelor of Music in 1908 - known as Tom, faithful member of Bethel who joined in all activities, especially singing, left Glynneath in 1897. lost his parents when young and care of the family fell on him. In the US is an eisteddfod adjudicator and leads the singing in the Hyde Park church, Scranton (brief english version mentions he has Kidwelly roots)

Also a report of him and family returning to Resolven and Pontardawe in for a visit in July 1914

A couple of articles from 1914-18 refer to him as Prof Thomas Thorburn

Very interesting stuff. Can I please ask what search criteria you are using as I am having trouble finding any reference to him. Assuming you are referring to this site http://newspapers.library.wales/ . Thanks

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Re: Thomas George Thorburn (b. 1876 Neath) to New York?
« Reply #32 on: Tuesday 19 December 17 21:09 GMT (UK) »
There are articles on the link I gave in reply 8 - www.newspapers.com - it is a subscription site but if you scroll down to where it says OCR text - you can read snippets of what it says - play around with the words and info and you might be able to piece together more of the articles.

https://www.newspapers.com/newspage/48287513/

https://www.newspapers.com/newspage/48217849/

https://www.newspapers.com/newspage/48255046/

https://www.newspapers.com/newspage/48212414/

https://www.newspapers.com/newspage/48863107/

https://www.newspapers.com/newspage/48310206/

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Re: Thomas George Thorburn (b. 1876 Neath) to New York?
« Reply #33 on: Tuesday 19 December 17 21:24 GMT (UK) »
yes I'm using http://newspapers.library.wales/   with the search term Thorburn AND Scranton

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Re: Thomas George Thorburn (b. 1876 Neath) to New York?
« Reply #34 on: Tuesday 19 December 17 22:05 GMT (UK) »
Oh well done Maureen for finding the marriage  :D
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Re: Thomas George Thorburn (b. 1876 Neath) to New York?
« Reply #35 on: Saturday 27 October 18 20:43 BST (UK) »
I think I can help you with information about T G Thorburn, who was my maternal grandmother's first cousin.  I have carried out a good deal of research into the Thorburns, and as I write, I have before me several items sent home by him to my grandparents in Glynneath, Wales. The first is a floral postcard with "Wilkes Barre "printed in glitter on it, which bears the message ; "Dear Friends. I suppose you thought I had forgotten you, but I have not. Well we crossed the ocean alright, and are quite settled down once more, but often wish I was in dear old Wales to have our photos taken.  With best love to all".
There is a New Year card dated 1911  ; "to cousins Bessie and Ben (my grandparents) with best wishes from cousin Tom and family, Scranton". There is a booklet  with photographs   of Scranton: also a letter card with 20 colour photos of Scranton, sent  in Sept 24, saying on it   "If not delivered return to Thorburn 13th St. Scranton". Finally, there is a copy of the words and music of a song he composed entitled  "America Blest Land of Freedom" with words by Ivor.C. Parry and T.G. Thorburn; music by Thos. Geo. Thorburn.  Dedicated to our National Army and Navy.

The history of Thorburns in South Wales begins  with Thomas Thorburn  (1805 - 84). He was born in Ashkirk near Selkirk in the Scottish Borders, and died in Kidwelly (Cydweli in Welsh) in Carmarthenshire.  I have a letter written by him saying that his father (also Thomas, a cabinet maker) died at sea on his way home from visiting relations in America.    Thomas Jr. was a customs and Excise officer. He married in Scotland, but his wife died giving birth to a son, who survived.  Thomas then moved several times, coming to  Haverford West in Pembrokeshire  in 1841,  eventually settling in Kidwelly. He married Mary Rees from the town of Cardigan  and they had ten children, eight of whom survived into adulthood.   One son, Alexander Hamilton Thorburn  was my great grandfather, father of my maternal grandmother.  A younger son was called George Rees Thorburn.   Both of them moved to Glynneath at the top of the Neath Valley in Glamorganshire.  Silica-rich limestone was quarried nearby, and there was a brick works Called Abernant Brickworks in Glynneath making silica fire-brick for furnace linings. Alexander was the foreman and George Rees was a worker there. They lived in Abernant Terrace in the row of company houses.   George Rees married a lady called Emily (I don't know her surname). They had five children, Sarah Jane, Thomas George (later of Scranton), William Rees,  Mary Ann, and David.  Apparently, Thomas George and William Rees married two sisters. According to my information, Thomas George went to the USA in 1903.
The family musical talent persisted, and one of David's sons, Aubrey, a noted musician locally, played the organ at my parents' wedding in 1933.  My grandmother's brother, another William Rees Thorburn,  was also a well known musician in the village. 
If I can give you any further information, let me know.