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married twice in Wombourne
« on: Thursday 21 December 17 10:49 GMT (UK) »
Surely there weren't two couples with the same name married in the same Church three months apart  ??? Can anyone suggest what is going on here and which wedding is the one I want.
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Aaron PARKES & Sarah   FLAVEL married 14 Aug 1797 witnessed by Benjamin PARKES & Lucy FLAVEL
and
Aaron PARKES & Sarah   FLAVEL married 6 Nov 1797 witnessed by Mary KENLY & William SADLER

The names are not common so what is going on here any ideas?
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Re: married twice in Wombourne
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 21 December 17 10:54 GMT (UK) »
Could the first one be banns rather than the actual wedding  :-\

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Re: married twice in Wombourne
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 21 December 17 10:59 GMT (UK) »
Could the first one be banns rather than the actual wedding  :-\

That was my first thought, but banns aren't witnessed are they?
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Re: married twice in Wombourne
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 21 December 17 11:07 GMT (UK) »
Is this just a transcription you have seen, or images of the actual entries?

I can't check myself at the moment, because FindMyPast is down for maintenance.

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Re: married twice in Wombourne
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 21 December 17 11:08 GMT (UK) »
If they are 2 different couples  :o one of the Sarah's appears to have a sister Lucy. Does the minister's name appear on the record? If so, is it the same minister on both occasions? If they are the same couple, perhaps there was some sort of error perpetrated the first time that made the marriage void? Though in that case it would be noted in the parish record.
Seeking: baptism Philip Murray 1813 nr Chatham Kent, death Ralph James Dunn b 1808 1861 - 1868 in Newington 1861
IRE: Kik DRAY[EA], PURCELL, WHITE: Mea LYNCH: Tip MURRAY, SHEEDY: Wem ALLEN, ENGLISHBY; Dub PENROSE: Lim DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS.
87th Regiment RIF: MURRAY
ENG; Marylebone HAYTER, TROU[W]SDALE, WILLIAMS Con HAMPTON, TREMELLING Wry CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD Coventry McGINTY
CAN; Nova Scotia [Halifax, Pictou]: HOLLAND, WHITE, WILLIAMSON

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Re: married twice in Wombourne
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 21 December 17 11:20 GMT (UK) »
Only a transcription on ancest. 
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Re: married twice in Wombourne
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 21 December 17 11:34 GMT (UK) »
I'll check the image on FindMyPast when it is back.  However, FreeREG have the same two entries.

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Re: married twice in Wombourne
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 21 December 17 11:51 GMT (UK) »
FindMyPast only has the transcriptions giving both dates

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Re: married twice in Wombourne
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 21 December 17 11:59 GMT (UK) »
And image not available on familysearch the references show 2 different pages at least.
[1] 14 Aug 1797
Indexing Project (Batch) Number   I03904-3
System Origin   England-EASy
GS Film number   1517739
Reference ID   items 2-12 p 44
[2] 6 Nov 1797
Indexing Project (Batch) Number   I03904-3
System Origin   England-EASy
GS Film number   1517739
Reference ID   items 2-12 p 45
Could the clerk have written the marriages into the parish record sometime after the event, from loose notes, and got it wrong?

Seeking: baptism Philip Murray 1813 nr Chatham Kent, death Ralph James Dunn b 1808 1861 - 1868 in Newington 1861
IRE: Kik DRAY[EA], PURCELL, WHITE: Mea LYNCH: Tip MURRAY, SHEEDY: Wem ALLEN, ENGLISHBY; Dub PENROSE: Lim DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS.
87th Regiment RIF: MURRAY
ENG; Marylebone HAYTER, TROU[W]SDALE, WILLIAMS Con HAMPTON, TREMELLING Wry CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD Coventry McGINTY
CAN; Nova Scotia [Halifax, Pictou]: HOLLAND, WHITE, WILLIAMSON