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William Ritchie flour miller born 1822 Edinburgh
« on: Friday 22 December 17 22:27 GMT (UK) »
 
Hello.
 I am trying to help a friend of mine with her family history as a Christmas present,  I am looking for the death of                                                                                            William Ritchie 59 Bn 1822 Edinburgh, Flour Miller in 1881,  Blythswood Civil Parish: Glasgow Barony, Lanarkshire,
He died between 1881 & 1891, I found a death that fitted 1894 in Scotland's People,                     I used the last of my credits to find it wasn't him! the one I have was an Ironmonger, Has anyone suggestions, I particularly wanted his death as I was hoping that it would have the date his marriage on it, it wasn't on his widows death certificate ,her name was Harriet Martin, born Ireland  about 1824, her age on her death certificate is wrong it has 60,I have searched everywhere for the marriage. 

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Re: William Ritchie flour miller born 1822 Edinburgh
« Reply #1 on: Friday 22 December 17 22:42 GMT (UK) »
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He died between 1881 & 1891, I found a death that fitted 1894 in Scotland's People

If he had died in 1894 he would be on the 1891 census.   His wife appears to be widowed in 1891
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Re: William Ritchie flour miller born 1822 Edinburgh
« Reply #2 on: Friday 22 December 17 22:51 GMT (UK) »
Have you already checked out the 1884 death aged 62?

Quite a big discrepancy in Harriet's birthyear - 1871 & 1881 = 1824 but 1891 = 1835

1881 shows children William & Margaret born Glasgow but 1871 shows them born Ireland 1855 & 1858 so it's likely that's where William & Harriet married. 
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Re: William Ritchie flour miller born 1822 Edinburgh
« Reply #3 on: Friday 22 December 17 23:05 GMT (UK) »
The birth certificates of any of the children born in Scotland after 1855 should tell you the date and place of marriage. Going by the fact that they were having children in Ireland up to approx 1858 ( per 1871 census) I suspect they were married in Ireland.
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Re: William Ritchie flour miller born 1822 Edinburgh
« Reply #4 on: Friday 22 December 17 23:07 GMT (UK) »
1861 everybody b Ireland except William

William Ritchie   39 miller b Edinburgh
Harriet  36
Markes    15
John  13
James 11
William  7
Margaret     4
Glasgow Barony ED 10 Page 11 Line 17
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Re: William Ritchie flour miller born 1822 Edinburgh
« Reply #5 on: Friday 22 December 17 23:21 GMT (UK) »
Thank you Carol &  Isobelow
I only have a transcript of the 1891 there is nothing to say Harriet is married or widowed no street name & William is not with the family.
I found this " RITCHIE WILLIAM Tenant Occupier HOUSE NO 11 DOUGLAS STREET BARONY 1885 VR010200335" I don't know if this is him or his son?
 11 Douglas St was the address that Margaret their daughter gave when she married Robert Smith Butcher journeyman, on the Marriage 4 June 1886, her father was dead, it only gave her mother name Harriet Ritchie M S Maritn
Yes big discrepancy in Harriet's birth year, but the death cert I have is her
1861 census, Blythswood, Glasgow Barony,Lanarkshire, Address:230 Holm St                          Only William was born in William  Ritchie 39 Bn 1822 Edinburgh, wife & 5 children born Ireland I have searched everywhere, cant find Marriage[ her father was Danial mother Harriet no M]s haven't  birth of children in Ireland
I checked out the 1884 death aged 62 he was an Ironmonger
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Re: William Ritchie flour miller born 1822 Edinburgh
« Reply #6 on: Friday 22 December 17 23:28 GMT (UK) »
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I checked out the 1884 death aged 62 he was an Ironmonger

You said that was an 1894 death hence my first reply above re 1891 census

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I found a death that fitted 1894 in Scotland's People,  I used the last of my credits to find it wasn't him! the one I have was an Ironmonger
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Re: William Ritchie flour miller born 1822 Edinburgh
« Reply #7 on: Friday 22 December 17 23:37 GMT (UK) »
11 Douglas St is the 1891 address for Harriet.  Both 1881 and 1891 entries show 644/7 as the registration number so does that mean the 1881 and 1891 addresses were the same?

I think the 1885 reference you found is more likely to be William snr than junior

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1881 and 1891 show registration district as Blythswood and there is an 1886 death for William Ritchie aged 55.  Given the discrepancies in ages for Harriet it may be worth a look
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Re: William Ritchie flour miller born 1822 Edinburgh
« Reply #8 on: Friday 22 December 17 23:40 GMT (UK) »
Sorry Carole , cant see & cant type :o the date was  9 Aug 1884.

 I found Harriet Ritchie Birth Date 13 Dec 1862 Birth Place Blythswood,Glasgow,Lanark,Scotland Father William Ritchie Mother Harriet Martin**[family search]

Just looked at Scotland People," RITCHIE HARRIET F 1862 644/6 812 Blythswood" that could be her

can you buy just 6 credits to look up a birth ?

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