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Steel Family
« on: Saturday 23 December 17 14:19 GMT (UK) »
I would appreciate some assistance in tracing the following family from the last census (1901) in Tunbridge Wells, Kent, England.

1) William Steel, born 1849 at Chard, Somerset, son of James and Mary Steel
2) Henrietta L (wife) 1856 Bromley Le Boy, Middlesex
3) Ida L.A (daughter) 1885 New South Wales
4) Dorothy Irene (daughter) 1886 New South Wales
5) Magnus H (son) 1888 New South Wales
6) Lorna M. (daughter) 1890 New South Wales.

The only information I have about the children is from the Sydney Morning Herald of August 6,1963 which stated " Dorothy Irene Steel died August 1963 at her residence 1 Prince Albert Street, Mosman. Beloved sister of Ida (deceased) , Magnus H and Lorna M. Steel. From this it is obvious that Ida had died sometime before 1963 and her siblings Magnus and Lorna were still alive in 1963.

Records for Tunbridge Wells show that James Steel and  Edward John Hatter (born 1843 at Remenham, Berkshire) were dairymen and operated a dairy in Tunbridge Wells at 30 Mount Ephraim. They are found in directories of 1899 and 1903 there but not in 1890 or 1913.The business is listed  as Hatter & Steel, dairymen 30 Mount Ephraim. It is known that Hatter & Steel's dairy was taken over in 1906 by John Brown's dairy and so one can conclude that the Steel family had left Australia sometime after the birth of the last child in 1890 and moved to Tunbridge Wells by 1899 and set up the dairy and that at least Dorothy Steel who died in 1963 had moved back to Australia. It would appear that the whole family left Tunbridge Wells and moved back to Australia but I cant find any records.

I can find no 1911 census for this family in England or any death records for them in England.

I would like to find out the following
1) when and on what ship did William Steel emigrate to Australia on and where did the family settle
2) the marriage record between William and Henrietta
3) what happened to Williams wife (date and place of death) and what happened to his other children.

Any family photos would be of help also.

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Re: Steel Family
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 23 December 17 14:54 GMT (UK) »
A start for the children:

NSW BMD index:
Ida Lilias A (birth reg 1884 Canterbury NSW, death reg 1962 Chatswood NSW)
Dorothy Irene (birth reg 1885 Canterbury NSW, death reg 1963 North Sydney NSW)
Magmes/Magnus Hembrow  (birth reg 1887 Canterbury NSW, death reg 1974 NSW)
Lorna Muriel (birth reg 1889 Ryde NSW, death reg 1975 NSW)


Newspapers:
Sydney Morning Herald, Tuesday, August 06, 1963
STEEL, Dorothy Irene.—August 2. 1953, at her residence. 1 Prlnce Albert Street, Mosman,  beloved sister of Ida (deceased), Magnus H. and Lorna M. Steel,

Sydney Morning Herald, Saturday, March 23, 1974
STEEL, Magnus Hembrow.-—March 20, 1974 (suddenly) at his home In Mosman. beloved son of the late Mr and Mrs W. Steel and loved brother of Ida (deceased). Dorothy (Beau deceased) and Lorna, At rest.

Sydney Morning Herald, Monday, April 28, 1975
STEEL, Lorna Muriel.—April 26, 1975, at hospital, late of Mosman, beloved daughter of the late Mr and Mrs W. Steel and loved sister of Ida, Dorothy (Beau) and Hembrow (all deceased). At rest.

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Re: Steel Family
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 23 December 17 15:16 GMT (UK) »
Could William and Henrietta have married in the UK? There is the following group:

Marriages Dec 1883  -  W.Ham   
GYDE Hannah Rebecca
HOOPER William Francis
JEFFREYS Henrietta Louisa      
STEEL William

A Henrietta Louisa Jeffreys (Mothers Maiden Name: Johnson) had her birth registered in Poplar (Union)  Q#2 1856. This fits with the 1901 census.

Note: Baptisms and confirmation of Henrietta's maiden name are on Familysearch:
https://www.familysearch.org/search/search/record/results?count=20&query=%2Bsurname%3Asteel~%20%2Bmarriage_year%3A1880-1900~%20%2Bfather_givenname%3Awilliam~%20%2Bfather_surname%3Asteel~%20%2Bmother_givenname%3Ahenrietta~%20%2Bmother_surname%3Ajeffreys%20%2Brecord_country%3AAustralia&collection_id=1770729

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Re: Steel Family
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 23 December 17 15:56 GMT (UK) »
Hi,
Sorry it took a while to find the return to Australia.
They returned on the 31st May 1907 on the ship called Omrah.
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Re: Steel Family
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 23 December 17 16:19 GMT (UK) »
In the 1913 Sydney directory, William’s address was already 1 Prince Albert st Mosman ... The family would have lived at the same address for over 50 years!!
http://cdn.cityofsydney.nsw.gov.au/learn/history/archives/sands/1910-1919/1913-part14.pdf

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Re: Steel Family
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 23 December 17 16:37 GMT (UK) »
Is this the family on arrival?
"Incoming passenger list to Fremantle "Omrah" arrived 4 July 1907" p19
http://soda.naa.gov.au/record/9257617/19

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Re: Steel Family
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 23 December 17 20:51 GMT (UK) »
There are some probate records
Lorna Muriel STEEL https://www.records.nsw.gov.au/item/1523093
William STEEL 1931 https://www.records.nsw.gov.au/item/194943
Magnus Hembrow STEEL https://www.records.nsw.gov.au/item/1489890
Dorothy Irene STEEL https://www.records.nsw.gov.au/item/1188510
Ida Lilias Ayr STEEL https://www.records.nsw.gov.au/item/1045693

I can photograph some of these next time I am at Archives office if you wish

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Re: Steel Family
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 23 December 17 22:30 GMT (UK) »
From Index to Register of Firms https://www.records.nsw.gov.au/searchhits_nocopy?keyname_search=steel&id=48

Name of Firm             Misses N.M. TOWNS and STEEL Typewriting Office
Nature of Business      Typewriting Office and Typists Agency
Place of Business        AMP Chambers Pitt St
Date of Registration    12 Nov 1917
Persons Carrying on Business     TOWNS Nora Kathleen,   STEEL Dorothy Irene,  CHRISTIE Nina Mary

Ros

adding:
William STEEL and Son
General Store Keeper
24 July 1913
Yerong Creek,
William STEEL and Magnus Hembrow STEEL

I think the 2 entries above that are for your William STEEL too (General Store at Yerong Creek Dec 1907 and The Rock 1911)
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