Welsh Place Name 1881 England Census

[Cas (stallc)]

Well done, Cas 

I think you deserve a night out rather than just a mince pie 

Gadget

Merry Xmas Gadget 

Few nights off after working over Xmas. Too tired to go out, don't like mince pies either. Some chocolate will do 

[Cas (stallc)]

Mary Ann remarries so David died. Can be found on census in Portishead with William and her youngest dau Amy age 9 also his children.

Marriages Jun Q 1889   
Jenkins    William        Bedminster    5c   1183    
Johns    Mary Ann        Bedminster    5c   1183    

Cas


 

[jdchisim]

Wow. I kind of wasn't expecting this to have blown up like it did.

Unfortunately, I know nothing about Wales as no one else in my family tree comes from there.

The Llewellyn mentioned moved to Ireland, then left Ireland for America, got married and had one child then moved back to Ireland where he died. The Welsh connection is a bit of a loss to me.

The only record I have to connect is this: http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Belfast_East/Alexander/143250/

Which shows him in Clevedon, England. Which lead myself to the record in Bedminister with Mary Ann, him and his other siblings.

The only thing I know about him is that he apparently spoke of a connection to Monmouthshire and that he was a fluent Welsh speaker. All of which is pretty unreliable information.

I will have to take a look at these records. I am not hugely familiar with where to find Welsh records as I am based in Ireland but I will take a look at the references you have provided.

Also, yes the Helbyon is Llewellyn. It's a particularly poor interpretation - though I couldn't read the place names!

The record I referred to and snipped that from was the one showing them at 1 Slade Road, Portishead.

Many thanks everyone for the help.

[Cas (stallc)]

Mary Ann second husband was from Monmouthshire.

You would need to obtain his marriage cert to confirm if father David.

Cas

[Cas (stallc)]

There is a marriage on familysearch for Agnes Hamilton Johns 1916 in British Columbia, Canada, it gives her father as Llewellyn so is the correct 1911 Ireland census

[jdchisim]

That's great!

Many thanks again!

[Cas (stallc)]

There is a service record that names his father as David, discharged due to desertion.

Llewellyn Oliver Johns
Birth year   1867
Birth parish   Portishead, Somerset
Service number   1064
Attestation date   23 Jan 1885
Attestation age years   18 & 8 mths
Attestation service number   1064
Attestation corps   Prince Albert'S (Somersetshire Light Infantry)
Discharge corps   Prince Albert'S (Somersetshire Light Infantry)
Document type   Attestation
Series   Wo 97 - Chelsea Pensioners British Army Service Records 1760-1913
Archive   The National Archives
Archive reference   WO 97
Box   3168
Box record number   92
Record set   British Army Service Records

Think he also goes by the name Lewis, there is a passenger list in 1895 travelling alone or back to the states as a plasterer.

Also think there may have been more children before Stewart. There is a 1890 birth for a Mary Louise Johns with parents Lewis & Ellen Johns. Also a birth and death for a Lewis A Johns 1891, In Philly USA on familysearch, but may not be connected. Date of marriage needed.

1901 Irish census Stewart is with Hamilton family in Tyrone.

Cas

[jdchisim]

Thanks for this.

Whereabouts did you see the passenger record? I am not familiar with this record?

Stewart Johns, is my great grandfather. Also thanks again for that Wales stuff. I was able to track them back to the early 18th century. In the same area.

[Cas (stallc)]

Lewis Johns
Age   29
Birth year   1866
Marital status   M
Occupation   PLASTERER
Departure year   1895
Departure day   28
Departure month   9
Departure port   Southampton
Destination port   New York
Destination country   United States
Ship name   Paris

1841 Rees, Ann & David age 2 in Lansannor enumerated as Jones. Also think Rees marries as Jones, Dec Q 1838 to Ann Griffith. 

Records on FindMyPast also some from Irish roots of him travelling as Llewellyn

Cas